Fuel Pump PN:

[N1642E]

Anyone know what the part number is for the fuel pump in a 2000 Beetle TDI? Are the pumps the same for the gas engines?

Thanks
Frank

[IndyTom]

New Fuel Pump - Auto Parts Warehouse


I believe the Fuel pumps are the same on the TDI and the other Beetle's

[SMG]

Why would you think that?

Here's a new 10mm IP for a 5-speed TDI: GermanAutoParts.com

They can be had used for a lot less and they are pretty sturdy units, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used one.

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by SMG

Why would you think that?

Here's a new 10mm IP for a 5-speed TDI: GermanAutoParts.com

They can be had used for a lot less and they are pretty sturdy units, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a used one.

So Diesel cars don't have fuel pumps but injector pumps? I was just thrown by the link I posted that showed a fuel pump for the 1.9 engine and said 2000 Beetle all submodels,all engines. So it is probably a flaw with their ad. http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/se...NAFFID=k244266

WOW, Diesel Injector pumps are a lot more expensive than a regular fuel pump. I guess I am glad I don't have a diesel.

[SMG]

Ah I can't blame you for that one then.

Yes they're expensive compared to a gas fuel pump which is only ~$300 brand new. But I've seen good used ones for $300-400.

You definitely don't want a broken TDI, no. But they don't break often and when they work they save the owner a lot of $$$.

Keep in mind how many coil packs, spark plugs (in the case of a 2.0, plug wires), etc that go into a gas car over their lifetime. TDI's don't have an ignition system so even if the IP goes twice in the lifetime of the vehicle (which it won't) you would have still spent more on ignition components for the gas car.

[Smileybug]

But you do have glowplugs to worry about with the diesels

But yeah, the IPs don't really fail all that often. We spent a pretty penny on an IP for our Mk1, but its been rebuilt with some nice goodies and modified a bit. Giles from Performance Diesel in Canada works some crazy magic with the IPs. You can get a lot of performance gain just by tweaking some settings with the IP. Pretty nice stuff

[SMG]

Glowplugs are easy. It's not any harder than replacing spark plugs really.

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by SMG

Ah I can't blame you for that one then.

Yes they're expensive compared to a gas fuel pump which is only ~$300 brand new. But I've seen good used ones for $300-400.

You definitely don't want a broken TDI, no. But they don't break often and when they work they save the owner a lot of $$$.

Keep in mind how many coil packs, spark plugs (in the case of a 2.0, plug wires), etc that go into a gas car over their lifetime. TDI's don't have an ignition system so even if the IP goes twice in the lifetime of the vehicle (which it won't) you would have still spent more on ignition components for the gas car.

Very true. I have driven TDI's in Germany. Actually that's the only type of car I drive over there. First it gets much better gas mileage compared to gassers and Diesel in Germany is about 2 Dollars a Gallon cheaper than regular gasoline.
In Europe they have a lot more Diesel cars on the road than they do over here. Once I rented a Toyota Corolla TDI over in Frankfurt airport which didn't look anything like our Toyota Corolla's here in the states. It looked like a mini crossover SUV and that thing moved. I was flying along at 240kmh/150mph and it wasn't even breathing hard. Unfortunately you can't keep up that speed due to congestion and construction sites on the Autobahn. But it was fun to open it up a few times.
Over in Germany they actually get a break on Taxes and Insurance if they drive Diesel cars. Here Diesel is pretty much frowned upon and for some reason it is more expensive than regular gasoline which doesn't make any sense since it costs less to be refined. Perhaps there are more taxes on diesel or maybe they are upping the price on Diesel with the purpose to discourage every day people to invest in a car with a diesel engine. Actually, here except for some Pick up trucks the selection of Diesel vehicles on the road is very much limited and again I blame the automakers and the Oil sheeks for this. They want to keep the American Public in Huge Pick Up Trucks and 4X4's and SUV's. Sure there have been Hybrid cars but they are still few and far between and most of them lack any sort of performance. I owned a 2010 Honda Insight for about 3 months. That thing was the slowest, clunkiest, most uncomfortable, most boring car I have ever driven. No performance to speak of and the gas mileage wasn't all that great. Now a friend of mine has a Golf TDI which gets almost 50mpg and that car is a fun car to drive. It has decent performance and gets Great Gas Mileage that even rivals some of the so called "Hybrids" out there. I think we here in the Great United States are getting deprived of technologies that have been around in other countries for many years and CEO's and politicians dictate what we the people have to like.
Europe has soooo many more choices when it comes to different type of cars with different type of engines that we will never see here. It's a shame but that is the way it is.
The very rare and few Diesel cars available here in the states you can never find on any lot. They keep their numbers down on purpose so we keep on buying gas guzzlers to make sure some Oil Sheiks pockets are filled along with all the corrupt politicians in Washington.

Sorry for rambling. I am anxious to see the release of the New 2012 Beetle TDI with 140HP / 236lbs of torque motor. They delayed it's release and more than likely it will be released as a 2013 model. It will be the most fuel efficient Beetle ever and with more torque than the 200HP Turbo Gasser. Now that is a Beetle I would love to have. Performance, Gas Mileage and Great Looks.

[Smileybug]

I checked out a new Golf TDI when I was hunting for a new car...if I wasn't so scared of the high pressure fuel pump failures and had more money, I would have jumped on it for sure.

We have an '84 Jetta Turbo Diesel...51mpg highway without really trying and the fuel screw can use to be turned back a bit too. Seeing 52 or more shouldn't be too difficult to achieve. I love me some older diesels...so simple. But diesels in general are pretty great. Though if you are just doing in town driving, they aren't really worth the cost as you won't see their full efficiency. But you can't beat the torque!

[SMG]

I think when it comes to what vehicles a manufacturer offers it totally depends on supply and demand. Where I'm at in Nova Scotia diesel vehicles are very popular and every second VW you see on the road is a TDI. The demand here for TDI's was very high which probably has a lot to do with our higher fuel prices.

I definitely agree that they are fun cars. I have a chip and nozzles in mine and it's a very quick little car and it still averages 45mpg+.

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by SMG

I think when it comes to what vehicles a manufacturer offers it totally depends on supply and demand. Where I'm at in Nova Scotia diesel vehicles are very popular and every second VW you see on the road is a TDI. The demand here for TDI's was very high which probably has a lot to do with our higher fuel prices.

I definitely agree that they are fun cars. I have a chip and nozzles in mine and it's a very quick little car and it still averages 45mpg+.

Which one do you like better your 2000 1.8 or your 2001 1.9?

[SMG]

It's a tough call... I haven't had the 1.8T working properly yet since the swap.. I ran out of time and put it into storage so I still have some issues to fix.

A TDI is way better for a daily but I would never want a TDI for a "fun" car. A gas engine just sounds so much better and is more fun to drive IMO.

[Rubee2006Tdi]

Just for information, I had two injection pumps fail on my 2002 Tdi. One at 35K and the other around 80K. Warranty took care of the first, but I was supposed to pay for the 2nd one. Instead I traded it in on the 2006. The dealer can fix it a whole lot cheaper than me anyhow .

Supposedly my problems stemmed from the liberal use of biodiesel, Bosch claims it should NOT be used in their pumps. Wish I had known that earlier... I used everything from 5% to 100% bio and it ran great. See try and help the environment and get screw*d. Figures :-(