K&N Filter any luck with the 2.0L

[Canadianbugin]

Originally Posted by Pseudotropheus

VW's are very safe. They're good cars. However, I have to disagree with the "tin-can" Honda. My 98 LS B18c, after I did a bunch of work to the car; I rolled it into a creek doing 97 mph in 3rd gear into a turn. I rolled 4 times, upside down in a creek, pulled it out, and the only real damage was the front axle fell off. Body damage was amazingly minimal. Car didnt crunch, budge, bend, or break.

The Beetle has way more airbags, its heavier, which makes it safer, however, Honda's are getting 5 star crash ratings as well, with still a good 1000 lbs less weight.

Volkswagen still gets the greatest love from me! I will never say anything bad about Honda, I cant find a logical reason to do so.

Look back to 98 and no Honduh had a five star crash rating.... You got very lucky as i have seen many cases were honduhs have been involed in collisions and the same can't be said.... So count yourself lucky.... Besides that i like a car that has more torque than is reqiured to fasten my wheels to the hub.... Anyway get back to the original question....Don't use a K&N in your VW unless you want problems with your MAF.... P.S. they are not cheap to replace but in the end it's up to the OP.....

[huck731]

Originally Posted by Canadianbugin

Anyway get back to the original question....Don't use a K&N in your VW unless you want problems with your MAF.... P.S. they are not cheap to replace but in the end it's up to the OP.....

I think that ius a personal opinion, I put in a k&n 57i series cold air shortly after i got my nb and have not had a single problem with my maf, the only problem i had was that i didnt have a clamp tight enough so the filter would fall off the hose and cause a cel, btu all i had to do was put it back on and make sure it was tight. havent had a problem since then.

[Canadianbugin]

Originally Posted by huck731

I think that ius a personal opinion, I put in a k&n 57i series cold air shortly after i got my nb and have not had a single problem with my maf, the only problem i had was that i didnt have a clamp tight enough so the filter would fall off the hose and cause a cel, btu all i had to do was put it back on and make sure it was tight. havent had a problem since then.

Everyone has there own opinion.....Some from experience some from advertisments... Mine is from many years of VW experience. Many other owners will tell you the same thing about K&N's.... MAF's are expensive and i am not going to cause damadge to my engine with one but to each his own.... My 2 cent's and opinion only.....

[70autostick]

my experience,


Dropped 55 on the drop in,works great

After removal of the breather hose,throttle body,and intake manifold,found it to be a very happy,clean car,no problems whatsoever.

It works good,clean the maf every 10k,no problems.

[Pseudotropheus]

Originally Posted by Canadianbugin

Look back to 98 and no Honduh had a five star crash rating.... You got very lucky as i have seen many cases were honduhs have been involed in collisions and the same can't be said.... So count yourself lucky.... Besides that i like a car that has more torque than is reqiured to fasten my wheels to the hub.... Anyway get back to the original question....Don't use a K&N in your VW unless you want problems with your MAF.... P.S. they are not cheap to replace but in the end it's up to the OP.....

My 96 Honda Accord went into (ironically) the same creek head on about 50 yards apart from the first Acura accident. Front bumper cover was damaged, nothing else. Airbags deployed, but there was no need. The car had almost no body damage at all. That was doing about 50 mph. Cant find anything wrong structurally with a Honda.

I've had a K&N filter in my Beetle now for 2 years and close to 20K, never had an issue with the MAF, I replaced it when I first took over the car as it was bad, put in the new MAF with K&N, no issues.

K&N theory coincedence? or true. We may never know. Could the MAF have just gone bad? its easy to put blame on aftermarket parts when something goes bad. Alot of independent shops and dealers do this alot. Yet, the majority never have problems...

[akasha1963]

You should only really need to clean a K&N every year. It is one filter that basically works better if it is dirty. I had one in my Mustang, cleaned it about every 20-25,ooo miles. Havent had the chance to drop one into my Bug yet.

Originally Posted by NBregio

i have the drop in type K&N, didnt notice changes in performance, or mileage...but where i did find change was in my pocket! i paid about 45 usd for the filter, and here in mex, the replacement filter costs about 11 usd so every 2500km i cleaned it and if you consider it, its like buying a new paper filter, right? so i have cleaned my K&N about 10 times, 10 times a saved 11 usd, so yeah, its worth it.and it doesnt have any sign of wear or so, so itll last about 100000 km i think...

[Canadianbugin]

OP It is your choice to use it or not.... You've been advised either way... Your choice in the end though... Good luck either way.

[The NEW Ringo]

What do you know or think about the aftermarket Ram kits or pipe and filter kits that replace the OEM snorkle and air cleaner box? I think that was just a bad design as the car cant breath through all that crap. But if I install the kit will it effect the o2 sensor? Will the car run better with more HP or worse?

[Pseudotropheus]

Most of those are designed with the stock MAF kept in mind. Perfectly fine to use.

[Byros]

Originally Posted by simonsi

Hmmm, so they let more dirt past the filter but it won't all magically stop at the throttle body, just imagine what gets into the cylinders....

I've really enjoyed my K&N filter over the years,
but now I'm not so sure about oil-filter technology, is there any high flow cone airfilter that doesn't require oiling in order to function properly?

I don't want to go back to the stock airbox + paper filter.

[Canadianbugin]

Originally Posted by Byros

I've really enjoyed my K&N filter over the years,
but now I'm not so sure about oil-filter technology, is there any high flow cone airfilter that doesn't require oiling in order to function properly?

I don't want to go back to the stock airbox + paper filter.

Not sure but i have heard of one made by ITG and it uses a dry oil whatever that is... I use a MAN or a FRAM and have removed the snorkel at the bottom of the airbox for more flow...

[Genesis]

I've used K&N before and decide to give the Purolator Pure ONE filter a try. I can't tell a difference. I have Pure ONE in all my cars. They run you between $23.00 and 25.00.

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by Byros

I've really enjoyed my K&N filter over the years,
but now I'm not so sure about oil-filter technology, is there any high flow cone airfilter that doesn't require oiling in order to function properly?

I don't want to go back to the stock airbox + paper filter.

ITG use just foam and have no oil AFAIK.

Stock paper flows pretty well though, not sexy but it works.

[Canadianbugin]

Originally Posted by simonsi

ITG use just foam and have no oil AFAIK.

Stock paper flows pretty well though, not sexy but it works.

Just trying to let the OP know that there is lots of alternatives out there...

[Canadianbugin]

Originally Posted by Pseudotropheus

My 96 Honda Accord went into (ironically) the same creek head on about 50 yards apart from the first Acura accident. Front bumper cover was damaged, nothing else. Airbags deployed, but there was no need. The car had almost no body damage at all. That was doing about 50 mph. Cant find anything wrong structurally with a Honda.

I've had a K&N filter in my Beetle now for 2 years and close to 20K, never had an issue with the MAF, I replaced it when I first took over the car as it was bad, put in the new MAF with K&N, no issues.

K&N theory coincedence? or true. We may never know. Could the MAF have just gone bad? its easy to put blame on aftermarket parts when something goes bad. Alot of independent shops and dealers do this alot. Yet, the majority never have problems...

If you over oil it ,it will cause the MAF to fail.... No coincedence... Fact....

[Byros]

I've been looking around for dry cone air-filters,
this is what I found at my local Autozone:


Spectre filters
Most models come pre-oiled from factory and need re-oiling,
except model 9735 which doesn't require any oil, it claims to have better airflow through a stainless steel mesh,
also it seems to be only for race/track/show use,
and it won't work in dusty or off road conditions (Makes we wonder what exactly it filters)

Spectre Performance - Official Site


Other vendors that sell dry air-filters:
AEM
AEM Air Intakes - AEM Cold Air Intake Systems, Dryflow Air Filters

Fujita
Fujita Competition Air Intake Systems

I did take a look at ITG, but it seems they need oil:
ITG Air Filters

I wonder if all offer similar filtering performance.

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by Byros

I did take a look at ITG, but it seems they need oil

Some ITG do, some of their ranges just use the foam to filter. I had a maxflow on a 2.5 turbo-diesel for 120k miles, no oiling and no issues in that time.

[Canadianbugin]

Afaik ????

[Pseudotropheus]

Originally Posted by Canadianbugin

If you over oil it ,it will cause the MAF to fail.... No coincedence... Fact....

I can understand the logic as to why the oil causes the MAF to go bad. I just havent had it happen yet. Cross my fingers. Its ok though.

Its the 2.slow.