Instrument Cluster and Transmission

[Smileybug]

But that's not the point of the immobilizer. Its there to immobilize the car...meaning to keep the car from moving...to keep people from hot-wiring it and driving it away. The immobililzer is not an alarm system. Its to keep the car from being stolen.

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by geniushanbiao

My point is that the immobilizer makes no good, not to escape from the responsibility of protecting my stuffs.

The Imobilizer does what it is designed to do. Makes it harder for people to steal your car. It isn't suppose to be your personal item body guard. No car can protect your valuables. If you are stupid enough to leave something valuable in the car then you have to take responsiblity for it not the imobilizer or any other anti theft system. Use common sense!

[nitroman]

Originally Posted by geniushanbiao

My mother's friend is a businessman and he drives an Audi A6. One day he parked the car and kept his laptops in the trunk. However the thief used a device to copy(or say immitate?) the signal of his remote then opened his trunk and stole his stuffs. He has a lot of important data in the laptops. How does this security work?

Wow that theif must've been either someone he knew, or else he was in the parking lot watching him the whole time. Otherwise how else would he have known there were laptops in the trunk. That's too bad.

[geniushanbiao]

Originally Posted by nitroman

Wow that theif must've been either someone he knew, or else he was in the parking lot watching him the whole time. Otherwise how else would he have known there were laptops in the trunk. That's too bad.

It was believed by police that the thief had followed them for some time. However this tech is not new in China since all wireless signals can be copied. All you have to know is the frequency of the signal.

[geniushanbiao]

Originally Posted by IndyTom

The Imobilizer does what it is designed to do. Makes it harder for people to steal your car. It isn't suppose to be your personal item body guard. No car can protect your valuables. If you are stupid enough to leave something valuable in the car then you have to take responsiblity for it not the imobilizer or any other anti theft system. Use common sense!

I didn't ask the immobilizer to protect my belongings. My point is the immobilizer is USELESS and only makes difficulty to people. You guys said that it is useful on preventing the car from being stolen but I think it is not worth spending such effort on preventing the car from being stolen. I'm explaining to you that the car worth nothing and even if been stolen the police are going to find it. They should develop something to protect the stuffs inside the car, not developing such kind of a useless system that both cost their customers money and make troubles.

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by geniushanbiao

I didn't ask the immobilizer to protect my belongings. My point is the immobilizer is USELESS and only makes difficulty to people. You guys said that it is useful on preventing the car from being stolen but I think it is not worth spending such effort on preventing the car from being stolen. I'm explaining to you that the car worth nothing and even if been stolen the police are going to find it. They should develop something to protect the stuffs inside the car, not developing such kind of a useless system that both cost their customers money and make troubles.

Most cars that are stolen are not found but end up in some Chop Shop unless it was stolen by some Teenagers going on a joy ride. I don't think the Imobilizer is useless. It does exactally what it was designed to do. If anything is left inside the car that is valuable then it becomes the responsibility of the person that left it there. You can't expect the car to protect your valuables. If that would be the case everyone would keep their money and jewelery in the car and not the bank. The best solution to property theft inside a car is not to leave any. Common sense is the key!
Now let's drop the subject and get back on track. This is getting redundant.

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by geniushanbiao

My point is that the immobilizer makes no good, not to escape from the responsibility of protecting my stuffs.

Casual theives take cars without immobilizes, that is essentially what it is for. Your argument is like complaining the headlights don't keep you warm, that is not their purpose....

If you want a car less likely to be casually taken without your consent then choose an immobilizes. If that doesn't bother you then choose one without and fit an entry alarm....easy choice according to your needs. Easy to claim the contents of most peoples cars are more important than the theft of the car but I don't agree with your statement at all tbh.

[tjbroussard]

Originally Posted by Smileybug

The car in question is actually an '06 so its a 2.5. Not sure how much they take, but I imagine the 6 quarts is not too far off. I know the 2.0 takes 4.5 so you need 5 quarts (buy 6 and have an extra full bottle in the trunk!).

Absolutely correct. 2.5l My bad. Thanks!

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by geniushanbiao

It was believed by police that the thief had followed them for some time. However this tech is not new in China since all wireless signals can be copied. All you have to know is the frequency of the signal.

Rubbish, any decent alarm or immobilizer uses a rolling random sequence of codes known to the fob(s) and the car, simply copying the frequency or even the last-used-code will not work. This has been the case since the late 80's. Many immobilizers actually use a passive chip in the genuine key fob, it is interrogated by a VERY low power signal from a transmitter in the steering column, the chances of anyone receiving the key fob signal let alone copying it is pretty much zero...

You also have no appreciation of either stolen-found ratios or Police cleanup rates, I can assure you your statement of "your stolen car will be found" actually made me laugh out loud :-) It varies by country and province but certainly it isn't a true general statement.

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by tjbroussard

Absolutely correct. 2.5l My bad. Thanks!

So the question comes back did the dealer really do the extra checks etc that the schedule calls for, did they provide any check sheet or similar??

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by simonsi

So the question comes back did the dealer really do the extra checks etc that the schedule calls for, did they provide any check sheet or similar??

Even if they produce some Cookie cutter sheet of paper, who knows if they actually always do what they are suppose to?

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by IndyTom

Even if they produce some Cookie cutter sheet of paper, who knows if they actually always do what they are suppose to?

Some evidence is better than none, if you are really concerned then plant a "canary" as in my example mal-adjust the park brake cable inside the centre console, if the sheet is ticked but the need for adjustment not noted you will know...