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10-09-2009, 08:24 PM
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Liquefied Petroleum - LPG
hello and greetings from germany!
i bought an 2.5 v5 nbc during my holidays in chicago. shipped it to germany last year and enjoying every day :-) but the costs for gasoline are much more higher than in the us. my bug needs up to 10l per 100 km.... mileage about 300 - 320 till the tank is empty....costs about 84$ every week, five to six times a month... so i decided to rebuild the engine using lpg - liquefied petroleum gas.... is there anybody who has experience about that mod? are the valves of that v5 engine hard enough to handle the new gas? most volkswagen engines are well prepared for that alternative fuel. except the 3.2 v6 and some other.... nobody can tell me something about that engine in germany. it was offered only in the us and canada... would be great, getting some notice and opinions about that plan.... lookin 4ward 2 hear from you thanx a lot for wish ya a marvelous indian summer fjelli 
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10-09-2009, 10:47 PM
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LPG? is that propane?
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10-09-2009, 11:00 PM
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Maybe this will help point you in some sort of direction...??
Compressed Natural Gas Vehicle Conversions 
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10-10-2009, 08:18 AM
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lpg = Liquified/Liquefied Petroleum/Propane Gas, also Low Pressure Gas...
thanx for the link, but these alternative fuel is cng - compressed natural gas. different system, different fuel. but maybe similar demands to the valves. the engine of this cng-project is an 2.0 l v4. i wrote an email to vw america, too. but probably i wont get an answer ... greetings from the rainy bavaria fjelli
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10-10-2009, 01:54 PM
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Good luck with your conversion. Is propane cheap enough to make the conversion worthwhile? Propane gets significantly poorer mileage when measured on a volume basis. The main benefit touted over here by propane conversion people was that the engine ran much cleaner. I drove a truck that had dual fuel, and it was very noticeable that the engine made less power on propane and got worse mileage. At the time, propane was cheaper than gas but that is not true today.
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10-10-2009, 07:17 PM
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ya right - the car needs up to 15/ 20 % more fuel. so the mileage is not as good as with normal 95octane gasoline.
and the tank in the spare wheel area in the trunk is limited to 50 l. its nearly impossible to get an bigger tank into it, caused by the small space/ trunk flap of the convertible .... so you have to stop more often getting new fuel. and the costs about 2.500 till 2.800 euro... more than 3.500 $. but propane is more than a half cheaper than normal gasoline. after 25.000 miles i have paid the conversion. so i will save money from next summer till the end of my bug.... maybe it will take one and a half years, caused by service each year for the lpg-mod. it will fall, when the valves of my 2.5 v5 are not pepared for... ;-) it will reduce horsepower from 150 to 140.... but thats not really a problem. if you try carring a trailer or drive faster than 100 miles for a longer distance, you can swith to normal fuel mode. also when propane is empty :-) the engine get ist automatically at the start till temp is hot enough, also at higher speed... on the webpage of vw is a notice about the speed limiter: caused by us traffic laws, the speed is limited to 124 miles. so that doesnt mean its caused by engine and car healthy - is it possible to disable the speed limiter? greetings from the still rainy germany :-)
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10-10-2009, 08:27 PM
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Everything I've ever read says that the gas is actually better for the engine, because of the fact it makes a little less power(less stress), it burns much cleaner leaving less contaminants in the engine, and since there is no liquid fuel there is no chance of any cylinder washdown. There are chiptuners who have some "tunes" out for the 2.5L--I bet they remove the speed limiter.
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10-11-2009, 12:43 AM
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Hey... I like your ride, but why is there a dead body tied to the trunk? 
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10-11-2009, 05:54 PM
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oh - it was only a careless tourist.. on a mountain trek with sneakers.... can be slippery after rain and thunder...
 just kidding i've been on a trekking tour with my little daughter and two friends - all with backpack. so - four people with baggage is too much for the bug and its trunk. so i took the carrier... and the dead man sack is just for protecting backpacks from rain.. thanx for ya posting - hope somebody can help with informations. greetings from the good old europe fjelli
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