[Beeble]

I don't think some of you guys understand how life works. If you have kids, or play in a band, or have a job or hobby that requires carrying around a lot of stuff, then you need a minivan. I qualify for several of the above and could not live without it. I would rather drive the Beeble, but it's not a car for all seasons. We have to have a van.

It's true that, much of the time, the van does not get driven with a full load. And...? You carry four or five people in your NB every time you drive it? I thought not. I can't afford to keep an Insight in the driveway for the times when a minivan is not absolutely essential, so I have to drive the van by myself.

It gets 20/25 mpg hauling five people and all their gear on vacation. I can lay a 4x8' sheet of plywood flat in the back. I can easily load a sound cart, four guitar cases, two amps and assorted equipment in the back. The NB will do none of that.

There is a place in the world for minivans. You may not live in that place, but others do, so live and let live, please.