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Originally Posted by Pushing Fifty
Good points, but what is it that you don't trust about clean diesel? You have me curious.
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The emissions sensors and the honeycomb has only a 120k mile warranty. That's 3 years of driving.
I've come to expect a far longer service life out of diesel vehicles and it seems no part on VW but the EPA is hell bent on making all cars throw away before 100k miles even comes around due to impossible to meet air quality requirements.
I also believe fully in domesticted, plant-based, fuel sources for combustion engines. New diesels can't use more than 5% biodiesel and function *at all* because the emissions shut the engine's power down when they detect a fallacy and B20 can cause the temp to drop enough to cause a CEL.
In other words... I won't buy one till I can rip that crap out and use software to tell the ODB Check that it exists when it does not. Diesels are inherently more efficient and cleaner engines from the start.
These are also enough reasons to make me finally resign as a US Citizen, because if we can't realize that we have had a strong answer for years and keep writing it out of the photo.. I want no part of the society.
I also got a BRM that is likely going to need a camshaft around 140-150k miles. Unacceptable by everyone's standards. Seems that reduced levels of additives in the US oils is to blame for this, because you DO NOT hear of these failures in Canada and Europe where these PD TDIs are way more common (have been out for more than a decade in far higher powers than the puny 100HP unit we got).
So in general it's a wait and see game. Most people are fine with a TDI but I do 30,000 to 40,000 miles per year, 300k is the minimum service life for a vehicle to me. Used to VW was the king for this, now they want more sales and that means shortening the lifespan of the hardware. This is made easier by the EPA and their senseless clean air mandates. We should be thankful we have a diesel option at all today. I say we shouldn't call it an option, it should be the default. The standard. And you pay out the nose for gasoline powered vehicles, mandate renewable fuels at a 20% level (totally totally doable with current feedstocks) and ramp up to higher percentages of domestic fuel using newer crop sources (I'm a HUGE fan of industrial hemp and medical marijuana -- but more industrial hemp, if you don't know the difference you need to self educate and Google the two).
"You should be lucky to have a job" ... "We are lucky to have any diesel at all."
"The job cut my pay and benefits and increased my hours by 20%" .... "You have to throw it away after 3 years of 120,000 miles because it's cheaper to get a new one than keep the older one running"
Pick yer poison.
Back off my soap box.....