Way Too America-Centric

[SMG]

Hey Guys,

In the GTG's, why does every few States have its own board, and then the rest of the world shares one board.

If Americans comprise 2% of the world's population, then why do Americans have 90% of the Events forums?

This is like having a 9 boards for Batik Blue 1.8T Verts, and then one forum for 'Everything Else'

I think the US should have one (subdivided into it's 9 categories), Canada should have one, and several other countries that have good NB communities deserve one too.

SMG

[CrazyJames]

I think this is a very good idea, and we shall take a look into it.

[jcroft]

Hey Guys,

In the GTG's, why does every few States have its own board, and then the rest of the world shares one board.

If Americans comprise 2% of the world's population, then why do Americans have 90% of the Events forums?

This is like having a 9 boards for Batik Blue 1.8T Verts, and then one forum for 'Everything Else'

I think the US should have one (subdivided into it's 9 categories), Canada should have one, and several other countries that have good NB communities deserve one too.

SMG
I'm not opposed to your idea, but your stats are way off. Take a look at NewBeetle.org visitors' languages in the past 72 hours. Americans may make up 2% of the population (maybe, I dunno, but that's what you said)...but they make a up a very large percentage of both Internet users and New Beetle drivers. You can also look at the member list yourself, if you like. We've got about 600 members registered. About 325 of them have entered their country. 260 of those are USA.

Again, I like the idea of making more forums for more areas. I'm just saying -- these decisions aren't made willy-nilly. We have stats to back them up. We know something about the demographics of our users -- and the fact is that most of them are American.

[SMG]

Actually, the stats that I chose to form my argument were dead-on ;)

Just because Mac users form 4% of the computer market, that doesn't mean that only 4% of software made works on a Mac.

"We've got about 600 members registered. About 325 of them have entered their country. 260 of those are USA."

So, 43% of the sites members are for-sure Americans.

So, 20% of the confirmed demographic members are from outside the US.

So, the rest of the world needs a minimum of another forum, and I vote it goes to Canada :D

SMG

[jcroft]

Again, I'm not disagreeing at all with the need for more varied regional forums, but how can you say that you stats were "dead-on" when you said that Americans make up 2% of the population? It's obvious they make up well over half the NewBeetle.org population, from the both the member list and the language string of their browser.

[SMG]

I was using global population, as you can't really refer to a site's population, because an internet site cannot be populated..

pop·u·late P Pronunciation Key (ppy-lt)
tr.v. pop·u·lat·ed, pop·u·lat·ing, pop·u·lates
To supply with inhabitants, as by colonization; people.
To live in; inhabit: creatures that populate the ocean depths.

SMG

[jcroft]

I was using global population, as you can't really refer to a site's population, because an internet site cannot be populated..

pop·u·late P Pronunciation Key (ppy-lt)
tr.v. pop·u·lat·ed, pop·u·lat·ing, pop·u·lates
To supply with inhabitants, as by colonization; people.
To live in; inhabit: creatures that populate the ocean depths.

SMG
Heh. Semantics, semantics. I'd say this site definitely has a population. :)

[ASurroca]

Wait a minute... :confused:

We already have (http://newbeetle.org/vb3/forumdisplay.php?f=47) a Canadian forum. We've also got a French-language and a Spanish-language forum so far. And by those stats, perhaps we should consider a German or Dutch forum in the future?

[jcroft]

Wait a minute... :confused:

We already have (http://newbeetle.org/vb3/forumdisplay.php?f=47) a Canadian forum. We've also got a French-language and a Spanish-language forum so far. And by those stats, perhaps we should consider a German or Dutch forum in the future?
Yeah, it sounds like those would be the two next-most important ones.

[nefarious]

Hey why isn't there a forum for us 2.3 V5 engine owners??

Only joking... bit too specific for me, I like em all thrown in together.

[VW2.0Driver]

Hey, where's the forum for us people who are Americans, with New Beetle 2.0's that have German Configurated ECU's in there car...

Oh wait

I'm the only one...Sorry!

[VW2.0Driver]

What about a starbucks section, I am sure of those 600 users the greater part of them drink or enjoy a tasty starbuck beverage.

;)

[callisto9]

Hey Guys,

In the GTG's, why does every few States have its own board, and then the rest of the world shares one board.

If Americans comprise 2% of the world's population, then why do Americans have 90% of the Events forums?

This is like having a 9 boards for Batik Blue 1.8T Verts, and then one forum for 'Everything Else'

I think the US should have one (subdivided into it's 9 categories), Canada should have one, and several other countries that have good NB communities deserve one too.

SMG

i think this was done this way because most of the ORG's population are americans. i don't think jeff's trying to discriminate, but rather make sections based on who's a member here.

[SMG]

Whatever dude, I don't care.

I'm happy I didn't sponsor the site yet, if it doesn't want to scratch my back, I don't want to scratch it's back :mad:

SMG

[ASurroca]

Hey why isn't there a forum for us 2.3 V5 engine owners??

Only joking... bit too specific for me, I like em all thrown in together.

Haha, wouldn't you be the like only one in that forum? :D

Wait, me must have more V5 owners, right? :confused:

[Toad]

Whatever dude, I don't care.

I'm happy I didn't sponsor the site yet, if it doesn't want to scratch my back, I don't want to scratch it's back :mad:

SMG That's a little pre-emptive, don't you think? The first two replys you got said it's a good idea, but they need more demand before it's made. But it's your chice to become a MS or not, and if you dont feel the need, we'll still like you anyway.

I think this is a very good idea, and we shall take a look into it. Again, I like the idea of making more forums for more areas. I'm just saying -- these decisions aren't made willy-nilly.

[ASurroca]

Hey Guys,

In the GTG's, why does every few States have its own board, and then the rest of the world shares one board.

You know, we obviously mis-read SMG here. This is in reference specifically to the Event Announcements and Planning forum.

In this case, I'm going to have to agree. Even if there wouldn't be too many posts in any given section, I really think we need to segment the catch-all section more. If I live in Italy and want to see if there are any events coming up, I'd rather have to click on, say "European Events" than a miscellaneous section where I'd have to sift through events from all over the world.

[Toad]

I wasnt saying he was wrong, i do think that "rest of the world" section for gtg's isn't the best thing.

I think there should be a canda sectoin (or maybe a few), and a europe section, aussie ection, etc...

But before anyone does so, we should see how much demand is out for any of these sections.

[noR]

It's obvious you do care SMG. Sorry to hear that you feel slighted, we will be discussing this on our end.

Thanks for the suggestion; we'll take it from there man.

[noR]

If I live in Italy and want to see if there are any events coming up, I'd rather have to click on, say "European Events" than a miscellaneous section where I'd have to sift through events from all over the world.


Yeah; but we've got to decide which sections to break out ; and how much. Is continental break-downs enough? I don't think so.

Which country's get special attention?
(We have 4 Italian members, 8 British, and 6 Germans)... is that enough for an Italy, British, or German section? Should they reallyl all be crammed in a European section?)


I'm also concerned with staying w/in our bounds. I know there's other newbeetle forums out there; and we all seem to be playing along together nicely. I don't want to be typed as tryin' to take over their gig; y'know?

... I'm going to take our discussion on this and bring it up w/the moderators.

[73standard]

What about a starbucks section, I am sure of those 600 users the greater part of them drink or enjoy a tasty starbuck beverage.

;)
LOL! Screw that, where's the Dunkin Donuts Coffee section. :D

[SMG]

noR, thanks for that man, I appreciate it :)

LOL! Screw that, where's the Dunkin Donuts Coffee section. :D

Haha, I'm not even going to ask for a Tim Horton's section ;)

SMG

[Toad]

noR, thanks for that man, I appreciate it :)



Haha, I'm not even going to ask for a Tim Horton's section ;)

SMG
What about the crazy people that dont drink coffee?

[SMG]

I don't think there's enough of those people to need a whole forum, we'll make a Misc forum for your guys or something. You can share it with the people who talk about knitting socks ;)

SMG

[CrazyJames]

Haha, I'm not even going to ask for a Tim Horton's section ;)

SMG

hehe if you asked for a Timmy Ho's section I would make one in a heartbeat, its a little sad that a large portion of my salary goes to Timmy...

[SMG]

Just to open this up again.

Look at the post numbers for the G2G section.

Myself, I can guarantee two threads, which is more than 'Texas New Beetle Roundup" and "USA: North Central"

If you can't make a Canadian one, then, in fairness, delete the two boards that I mentioned above, there just isn't enough 'demand' to keep them around any longer.

SMG

[jcroft]

Just to open this up again.

Look at the post numbers for the G2G section.

Myself, I can guarantee two threads, which is more than 'Texas New Beetle Roundup" and "USA: North Central"

If you can't make a Canadian one, then, in fairness, delete the two boards that I mentioned above, there just isn't enough 'demand' to keep them around any longer.

SMG
I'm all for making a Canada forum in Events, and was from the beginning. As I said in my very first post in this thread, I agree with your suggestion that we need more forums for more countries. I'm all for it -- let's do it. It's tough to figure out exactly which countries have the representation here to do it, but Canada is an obvious one.

The only thing I disagreed with you on was when you said American's made up only two percent of the population. That may or may not be true, but I just wanted to point out that it's definitely not true at NewBeetle.org.

Also, I don't think thread counts in the new forums is a very good measure -- these forums haven't even been open a month yet. If you look back at the old forums, you'll find that both of the forums you refer to had plenty of use over time.

[Nytefalle]

I don't think there's enough of those people to need a whole forum, we'll make a Misc forum for your guys or something. You can share it with the people who talk about knitting socks ;)

SMG

Hey! I prefer tea over coffee and I talk about knitting socks. :D

[Mazzzja]

It would be nice if "elsewhere" can be divided up in continents at least.
Specific countries is not necessary.
Most of the countries have their own forum anyway where events can be shown.
But it's possible that someone from outside the USA finds this org and can then find easily that in his/her country a meeting is held by a local NB-club (without knowing a local club exists).
As an example, the Dutch NB club is planning for at least 6 meetings a year.
In Germany alot of meetings are held each year. Unfortunately not alot of Germans know English very well, so you won't find them much here :rolleyes: .

And for the language chart. I'm afraid I'm partly guilty for the high number??? hehehe :o

[neko]

It would be nice if "elsewhere" can be divided up in continents at least.
Specific countries is not necessary.
Most of the countries have their own forum anyway where events can be shown.

Pretty true, google for "new beetle forum" and the org is the first hit (that's the way I found out about it :) ) what may help more is a link page where people from various countries could fine their local NB forum. Some of these forums may be nice enough to link back to the org. Then we could have cross-searches in the tech section, that may increase the knowledge base !!!
And then, there will be enough of us to conquer the world !!!! Muhahahahahahaha :drevil:

Jokes aside crosslinks may not be a bad idea ... :scared: ... don't flame me !!!

[noR]

Cross pollenation isn't a bad idea though. There's a Puerto Rico forum I check out from time to time, as well as .org.uk

[Mazzzja]

The Dutch forum will be hard to understand as the language used is .......ehem...... Dutch :confused: ;)