which one go better

[benzza]

if i want to put engine on my bug which one should i choose VR6 2.8 or 1.8T

which one is more useful about petrol and power

[Billsbug]

[noR]

W12 in place of the back seat.

[noR]

otherwise go with the VR6.

[karn_porsche]

You should put either one you can find. The power and mas mileage always go in the same direction. The high performance car never advertise the best gas mileage.

[benzza]

i can find two of them now but they have the difference price also 1.8T much more expensive but i dont know i think V6 much better than V4 but 1.8t the engine is lighter so give me some comment

[gilligan]

Heres a comment pick one!!!! and quit creating new post hammering the same damm question go with the vr 6 then when you hate like everyone on here has told you about a billion times you can go with one of the others!!! GAWD!!!!

[benzza]

sorry bro to much questionz for u but its hard to choose cuxx lots of money to invest and also it is thailand and i think am the first one in thailand who will change this kind of thing on beetle so have to decide clearly okay and actually i dont know much about this two engine so i have to get lots of details on other okay and soory again if u were me u will do like me man thank for ur commnent

[zeusenergy]

Originally Posted by benzza

sorry bro to much questionz for u but its hard to choose cuxx lots of money to invest and also it is thailand and i think am the first one in thailand who will change this kind of thing on beetle so have to decide clearly okay and actually i dont know much about this two engine so i have to get lots of details on other okay and soory again if u were me u will do like me man thank for ur commnent

Either way you have to do so much more than drop in a motor!! Electrics, mounts, transmission, computer, exhaust, wire harness, accessories, etc.
Find a complete car that has been wrecked and buy the whole lot.
You will get more power from a VR6 straight away.

[zeusenergy]

Originally Posted by noR

W12 in place of the back seat.

That would be sick!!!

[gilligan]

Originally Posted by zeusenergy

That would be sick!!!

Yes unfortunately the only place to find a v12 is in a vw phaeton and at $96,000 American I'm guessing it's out of his/our price range.

[benzza]

thank you for all comments i deicided to get 1.8T engine and suspension i think therer is a revo program can upgrade from 150 hp to 218 hp what u guys think i think is more power than Vr6 right

[zeusenergy]

Originally Posted by gilligan

Yes unfortunately the only place to find a v12 is in a vw phaeton and at $96,000 American I'm guessing it's out of his/our price range.

That, and it would be very difficult to get that kind of power down to the road minus the AWD!
But if you have the $ for a W12 motor, why not AWD too!

[Picknicker]

If you want to keep the VR6 stock - take the 1.8T and give it a new chip. Than you've got about the same power (approx 180 to 210 in the 1.8t vs 193 in the VR6). If you might want to keep increasing the power - take the VR6 500hp - no problem at all.

And (very important) - the vr6 (even stock) has a gorgeous sound

w12 in a Beetle - sounds like the Wörthersee GTI W12-650 concept

[pinky]

stock-for-stock power will be about equal but the VR6 is heavier.

vr6 sounds a lot better

1.8t with a chip will be faster than the VR6

[Picknicker]

a 1.8t will equal a 2.8 or 2.9 vr6 - but even a chipped 1.8t will have serious problems with a 3.2 or 3.6 vr6 i guess...

a 3.2 has (stock) 241 HP or 250 HP (depending on the year built) and a 3.6 has 300 HP...

Event the torque is higher - the 3.2l engines develop 300 to 320 Nm (221 - 236 lbs ft) and the 3.6l engine develops 350 Nm (258 lbs ft)...

A 1.8t will be faster from 50mph to 80mph in the last gear (more torque in the lower rpms 'cause of the turbo)...

[pinky]

i've seen 1.8ts with bolts ons do 210-220ish whp and 260ish wtq...

the VR6 is also quite a bit heavier (power/weight) and will most likely throw off the handling of the car.. plus, you should probably change out the front suspension if you're adding a VR6, which i just going to add to the cost..

but if $ is no object, 2.8T is pretty fun.

[Billsbug]

http://www.forcefedengineering.com/stage4.htm

[Picknicker]

600whp - that's evil!



The weight problem might be an aspect. Though - I don't know how much weight the whole turbo thing (charger, intercooler) adds for that the vr6 is no real V6 - more a row 6 with the size of an row 5 or large row 4...

But I really dunno... A scale and two engines would be nice Anyone swapping a 1.8t with a vr6 ?

[Billsbug]

Originally Posted by Picknicker

Anyone swapping a 1.8t with a vr6 ?

http://www.hpamotorsports.com