VR6 motor swap... CONFUSED!

[RRIDER450]

ok so i blew my 98 2.0 beetle up yesterday and ive been doing ALOT of research but im confused. i wanna do a mk3 VR6 swap. after reading some of the other threads i went ahead and bought my buddys 98 jetta VR6 5 speed for the swap. the VR is in good running condition but the body is shot ( got it very cheap ). but ive only been a VW owner for 4 months now so im new to this game. and dont know alot about the VW technical terms. so if anyone can help explain this swap in a "Dumber" way i would appriciate it! wat all do i need from the VR Jetta? can i use my original tranny and ingition cluster? PLEASE HELP ASAP! gonna try to do the swap early next week. THANKS!!!!

[pm22071985]

Originally Posted by RRIDER450

can i use my original tranny and cluster?

Is the tranny you have matched to the 2.0 an auto or manual?

At the least you'll have to play some games with vagcom to change the rpm reading when going from the 4 to 6.

PM "the cheat", he is the only one that seems to talk about this swap.

If I was you, I would bribe him with parts and cash to come help you get it done in a weekend. Its better to spend a little more and have help and actually get it done than to fubar it.

maybe then you'll be one of the few who actually completes the swap. no offense meant but i see tons of threads talk about it for a week and then the OP disappears.....

Good luck, take alot of pics of the process so the next guy can learn from you.

[simonsi]

Originally Posted by RRIDER450

ok so i blew my 98 2.0 beetle up yesterday and ive been doing ALOT of research but im confused. i wanna do a mk3 VR6 swap. after reading some of the other threads i went ahead and bought my buddys 98 jetta VR6 5 speed for the swap. the VR is in good running condition but the body is shot ( got it very cheap ). but ive only been a VW owner for 4 months now so im new to this game. and dont know alot about the VW technical terms. so if anyone can help explain this swap in a "Dumber" way i would appriciate it! wat all do i need from the VR Jetta? can i use my original tranny and ingition cluster? PLEASE HELP ASAP! gonna try to do the swap early next week. THANKS!!!!

Not much ignition wise is going to fit, the 2.0 is a 4-cyl, the VR6 is, well, a 6.

[The Cheat]

98 manual nb=good candidate.

98 auto nb=have fun.

the vr6 itself will bolt up nicely, you may have to get the mk4-style mounts/brackets (rolling change in 98 on the mk3 vr), but other than that, the shift linkage will work from the nb, as will axles and lots of other things.

just completed one last weekend, takes a weekend easily with one person.

[RRIDER450]

my 98 beetle is a manual, i guess i shoulda mentiond that lol. The Cheat, where do u live and how much would u charge to help with my swap? lol i have sum pretty good VW guys helping me but this kinda swap is new to all of us.

[The Cheat]

i'm out of connecticut, will travel up to 400 miles for a reasonable rate.

[RRIDER450]

ok, well im 402 miles from connecticut. lol but i prob wont have enough for ur reasonable fee. wat is the number 1 hardest part about this swap? i know my ways around a car, i graduated #1 from my highschool automotive tech career center. but like i said im new to VW.

[The Cheat]

keep me fed, warm at night, and line my pockets with enough to cover gas, smokes and tolls, and i'll help.

you'll be using the vr transmission, i'll gladly help in exchange for your junk 2.0 stuff. i can fit a motor and trans in the back of my jetta sedan.

how's that for reasonable?

[RRIDER450]

sounds plenty fair. wat if i gave u my junk 2.0 motor, tranny, and the rest of the 98 jetta... i really dont have alot of extra money to accually give u cash.. give it some thot and let me kno asap. the warm house and smokes isnt a prob tho.

[RRIDER450]

hey nevermind. talked to my old votech teacher and hes letting me do it in there. he thinks itl b a good learning experience for the students and il have an unlimited supply of resources!!! ... i have some friends that are seniors in there so i think we should be able to pull something together... THANKS for the offer tho!

[pm22071985]

Take pics of the process.

[70autostick]

Originally Posted by RRIDER450

hey nevermind.

Cheat,"Dammit"...

[RRIDER450]

ok so i almost got the VR6 outa the jetta today. got a couple questions tho. can i use the wiring harness outa my beetle??for the ecu/ecm does it just unplug outa the jetta and into the beetle? for the RPM and MPH how do i reprogram them to work with the VR6? finally wat all do i have to change around to use the hydraulic clutch outa the jetta? HELP WITH THESE QUESTIONS IS NEEDED ASAP!!!! im goin back in tomorrow to work on it and would like to know what to do before then. THANKS!! here are some pics. i would have taken more but i forgot my camera so i took these with my phone...

[RRIDER450]

heres a link if the pics dont show up.
ANDERSON's VR6 swap into beetle Photo Album - MySpace Photos

[pm22071985]

Originally Posted by RRIDER450

ok so i almost got the VR6 outa the jetta today. got a couple questions tho. can i use the wiring harness outa my beetle??for the ecu/ecm does it just unplug outa the jetta and into the beetle? for the RPM and MPH how do i reprogram them to work with the VR6? finally wat all do i have to change around to use the hydraulic clutch outa the jetta? HELP WITH THESE QUESTIONS IS NEEDED ASAP!!!! im goin back in tomorrow to work on it and would like to know what to do before then.

Sorry I don't know the answer to that.
Thanks for taking the pics, plenty more are needed.

Try sending a pm to "the cheat", maybe you should've given him a carton of cancer sticks and the old parts.

[The Cheat]

well, the hydraulic system stays unchanged...may need to make a line to fit, but other than that...that's it.

as for wiring, get an mk3vr bentley and a beetle bentley...that's all i can say. gotta understand, this is a business for me and a trade secret so to speak.

if i gave out all the deets, i wouldn't make any money.

anderson, get the motor in the car, next weekend (20th) i am free and can wire it up for a small fee.

[RRIDER450]

ok il let u kno ahead of time if i dont figure it out. but figure out wat exactly your price is and let me know.

[RRIDER450]

do you have a VCDS???

[The Cheat]

pm coming your way, and yes, i have vcds.

[raymondlee]

still wondering some things