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Old 09-10-2007, 09:50 PM
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The beginning of May, the little 3year old Madeleine McCan (British girl) disappeared in Portugal, on holiday.

The parents were in the restaurant of the hotel while the little girl was asleep in the room. When the parents got back, the girl was gone. Apparentley abducted.

A huge search started, and all federal police stations all over Europe were informed, and helped the Portugal police in the search.

Even the parents started a never seen media campaigns to keep the attention on the abduction of the girl. They even went to see the Pope, to make him pray that Madeleine is ok and will return safe and sound.

After several weeks, not a single clue helped.

Just untill a few days ago, when the Portugal police questionned the mother of the girl for 11hours. After that investigation, both the mother and the father have been declared suspects in the case. They have since then claimed their innocence. They claim they have nothing to do with the abduction of Madeleine.

In the news today, the British lab has found DNA of the little girl in the rental car of the parents, 5 weeks after the disappearance of the little girl.

That means that the girl (most likely the body ) has been moved by their rental car.

This is severe evidence against the parents.

It now seems that the parents have killed the girl.

This is such an terrible story.

From day one they have screamed their innocence and started a huge media search all over Europe, and know it seems the net closes down onto the parents

If they appear to be guilty, I really hope they go to hell

I hope they are wrong, and everythings turns out good, but I doubt it
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:14 PM
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We dont know they are guilty-take it easy. We only know what has been given to the press. I wouldnt rush to judgement.
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I haven't followed the case that close, but on the Sunday shows they talked to the Uncle and he pointed out that the rental car was rented 20 days after her dissapeareance and after the authorities were notified...so it would be difficult for them to have moved her body in this car.
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I haven't followed the case that close, but on the Sunday shows they talked to the Uncle and he pointed out that the rental car was rented 20 days after her dissapeareance and after the authorities were notified...so it would be difficult for them to have moved her body in this car.
Yes, but how comes the DNA of the girl then in the trunk, when the car was rented after the girl was missing?

I so hope the authorities are wrong, but I have my doubts
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Playing devil's advocate, what's to say someone who knows the family or is close to the family didn't track the car down somehow and put a body in there, or plant some blood in there? Far fetched, I know...but I do think it's odd that this wuold come up nearly 3 weeks after she was reported missing. You would think the body would be smelly (if she was dead).

This is so sad, the girl is such a cutie. I am not a parent, but I could never imagine harming a child or putting one through anything bad like that
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Also it's not mentioned as to what they obtained the DNA from - it could have been hair from the girl that may have been on clothing or luggage that was placed in the trunk. Or maybe from toys, blankets, etc.
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If they did kill her, why did they stay in Portugal so long?? If they knew she was dead they would have left as soon as possible.

Sorry, I just don't buy it, and saying there's DNA means very little - there's DNA in toenail clippings.
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If they did kill her, why did they stay in Portugal so long?? If they knew she was dead they would have left as soon as possible.

Sorry, I just don't buy it, and saying there's DNA means very little - there's DNA in toenail clippings.
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IMHO - Both Medical proffesionals. If they did it in the U.K. the Police over here are like that of the U.S. .. Organized. The Portugese law is completely different, i may even go as far to say, still in the caveman era. IF they did do it, i think it would have been an accident and not premeditated.

As was mentioned in a previous post, the DNA found in the rental could of been a hair or flaked skin that was originally on the parents and passed into the car.

I don't lay judgement on who did it, i leave that to the authorities to work out. But i believe it will become one of life's mysteries
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"Innocent until proven Guilty"

IMHO - Both Medical proffesionals. If they did it in the U.K. the Police over here are like that of the U.S. .. Organized. The Portugese law is completely different, i may even go as far to say, still in the caveman era. IF they did do it, i think it would have been an accident and not premeditated.

As was mentioned in a previous post, the DNA found in the rental could of been a hair or flaked skin that was originally on the parents and passed into the car.

I don't lay judgement on who did it, i leave that to the authorities to work out. But i believe it will become one of life's mysteries
Well you've confused this Australian

Are you saying that there is a benefit in them saying in Portugal?, I think the police are pretty hopeless and they may be saying their suspects to make them leave the country in order for them to get back to their full time incompetence.

Either way I can't see a good reason for them staying in Portugal, unless their waiting for their little girl to turn up.
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LONDON, England (CNN) -- Authorities are examining a photo taken in Morocco showing a child which appears to resemble missing British toddler Madeleine McCann, a spokesman for the girl's family told CNN Wednesday.

"It appears to look very like Madeleine on first glance," spokesman Clarence Mitchell said.

The digital picture was taken by a Spanish couple who vacationed in Morocco in late August, he said. The picture, taken out of a moving car, seems to show a Moroccan woman carrying a child on her back while walking along the side of a road.

"Along this route we started to take photos of everything we saw -- mosques, villages, everything. We saw this group of people we took some photos but as soon as we took them, we saw a blonde, blonde girl who caught our eye," said Clara Torres. "We thought of Madeleine but we didn't think any more about it as we thought it would be impossible."

Torres said she was traveling from the town of Chefchaouen to Tetouan when the pictures were taken.

"The picture stayed in the camera as we thought it was so strange," Torres said. "The truth is, I've been kicking myself, because these 25 days have been lost, but I couldn't do anything else. The moment I realised, I handed over the photo to the authorities," who forwarded it to Interpol.

Mitchell said attorneys for Kate and Gerry McCann -- the girl's parents -- had just received the photo. The family has made a policy of not commenting on potential sightings of the child, he said, as none have turned out to be verified.

"If indeed this is her in a picture, and if it is proof she was alive just a few weeks ago, clearly this could be a major breakthrough," he said. However, "technical assessment is underway ... until we know a lot more about the picture and its authenticity, we simply can't comment any further."

he couple, both doctors, were vacationing in Portugal's Algarve region with their children -- including then-3-year-old Madeleine -- in May. The couple said they were having dinner at a restaurant while their children slept at their hotel May 3, and discovered Madeleine was gone when they checked in on them.

The McCanns were named "arguidos," or suspects, earlier this month by Portuguese authorities, but have vehemently denied any involvement in their daughter's disappearance.
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News of the missing wide-eyed toddler has grabbed headlines across the globe and moved celebrities such as soccer star David Beckham to make public pleas for the girl's safe return.

Mitchell said Wednesday the McCanns are being kept apprised of the situation regarding the photo. Earlier, the McCanns visited Morocco during the search for their daughter, and authorities in Rabat, Morocco, assured them of their cooperation.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...oto/index.html
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:59 AM
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Holy crap!! Very strange, indeed! I hope that's her and they find this poor little girl alive
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Holy crap!! Very strange, indeed! I hope that's her and they find this poor little girl alive
I thought it was strange that a light-skinned, blonde-headed girl would be on the back of a woman in moracco who is decked out in native-wear. From looking at the photo, I can't distinguish the woman's facial features or her skin tone to tell if she's looks Moroccan.

I never thought for a second that the parents had anything to do with it. Their actions after her disappearance weren't characteristical of guilty people. They went out of their way to bring INTERNATIONAL attention to their case.

I've now read that without a body the parents won't be charged with her disappearance and that test on the DNA in the car were 'inconclusive'.
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I was just watching GMA and they said that there had previously been numerous possible sightings of her in Morocco and the parents even visited the country after her disappearance to raise awareness of her case. ABC also put a photo of her up next to the photo I linked to above, and the facial similarities are striking. Although taken from a moving car, I would expect a digital image to have been a LOT more clear. I have no doubts that Interpol can clean it up and get a better image from the photo.
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Who, while visiting a foreign country, leaves their 3 year old child alone in a hotel room while they have dinner downstairs in a restaurant
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Who, while visiting a foreign country, leaves their 3 year old child alone in a hotel room while they have dinner downstairs in a restaurant
That's what I thought as well, but things work different in Portugal - obviously not everybody is as laid back and to be trusted.
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It would be a miracle if the girl in gthe Morocco is Madeleine. But, what a miracle, indeed!
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Who, while visiting a foreign country, leaves their 3 year old child alone in a hotel room while they have dinner downstairs in a restaurant
I've read that doing so is an accepted practice in Europe.
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LONDON, England (CNN) -- A young girl photographed in Morocco is not the missing British toddler Madeleine McCann, according to British media reports on Wednesday.

The Evening Standard newspaper featured a new photo of the child, said to be the daughter of a local olive farmer, under the headline "It's not her."

Reporters descended on the remote hillside village of Zinat in the north of the country after the image of the young girl being carried on a Moroccan woman's back was flashed around the world as a possible sighting of four-year-old Madeleine.

But it quickly emerged that the girl in the photograph was believed by villagers to be five-year-old Bushra Binhisa, the daughter of an olive farmer.

Evening Standard journalist Rashid Razaq, who flew to Morocco from London, said he had seen the youngster on Wednesday, the UK's Press Association said.

He said: "She has got a resemblance to Madeleine but when you see her properly, it is obvious it isn't her."

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "Clearly, if these reports that the girl in the photograph isn't Madeleine are true, it is disappointing news.

"This is why Gerry and Kate refused to comment on individual sightings and why I was advising caution overnight.

"Clearly, the search for Madeleine will continue and I would appeal for everyone to refocus their efforts to achieve her safe return."

The digital picture was taken by a Spanish couple who vacationed in Morocco in late August, Mitchell told CNN. The picture, taken out of a moving car, seems to show a Moroccan woman carrying a child on her back while walking along the side of a road.

"Along this route we started to take photos of everything we saw -- mosques, villages, everything. We saw this group of people we took some photos but as soon as we took them, we saw a blonde, blonde girl who caught our eye," said Clara Torres.

The McCanns, both doctors, were vacationing in Portugal's Algarve region with their children -- including then-three-year-old Madeleine -- in May.

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Source:http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe...oto/index.html

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Sadly, this seems like it will turn into a case like Natalee Holloway and JonBenet Ramsey.
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I've read that doing so is an accepted practice in Europe.
I don't know, but it's not done where I live.

This story has been all over the news here obviously.
I don't know what to think of it.
It's sad anyway you look at it.
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