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many, many years ago when I worked in nursing homes, one family came and took pictures of the deceased still in the bed at the nursing home - just as bizarre, but we didn't ask why
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I have a strong dislike for Gaga.

At least she's not singing about wanting to "take a ride on your disco stick".
Ohhhhh!! You didn't, Shannon!


I can't stand Lady Gag-a either
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My brother says that he got the puppy from a humane society here ... and the humane society said the pup is an Australian Shepherd. Now, to me ... it looks like a German Shepherd mixed with something else..
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The notorious setting of the flashing lights and glamour would be the setting for Tupac's final bow September 7th 1996, the event would be stricken by tragedy and alot of strange circumstances for the 'alive theorists' however nobody could have imagined what started off as a routine trip to attend a boxing match between Mike Tyson and Bruce Seldon would see the downfall of Tupac. Apparently Tupac didn't want to go to Vegas but Suge had convinced Tupac to attend, it was reported that in the weeks prior to this there had been some unrest in the Deathrow camp and Tupac apparently had instructed a letter to be wrote to inform of him leaving the label.

The Tyson v Seldon fight was over in 109 seconds, while leaving through the lobby of the MGM Grand Tupac and the Deathrow entourage got caught up in an incident with a south side crip Orlando Anderson over a prior incident and a Deathrow medallion being stolen. Tupac approached Anderson and punched him in the face, the incident can be seen below in which the Deathrow entourage is beating on Anderson.


Tupac then fled the scene with the Deathrow entourage following which escalated into a huge crowd pouring out onto the streets of Las Vegas. Tupac went back to the hotel the Luxor and changed clothes, after visiting Suge Knights home on Monte Rosa Avenue they headed for club 662 in their black BMW. Driving down the strip they bumped some of the new tracks from Makaveli, they was pulled over around 11:05 by police for playing the music too loud and not displaying the correct car plates. After being let go they headed East on Flamingo road and stopped for a red light at Koval Lane which was half a mile from the strip. While at this red light a white Cadillac pulls up to the right of the BMW and an arm comes out of the car and starts shooting at the bmw. Tupac aware of what was about to happen tried to jump into the back seats and was subsequently hit twice one bullet hit him in his leg and ricocheted up into his lung. Suge was apparently hit in the head, it was later believed that this was shrapnel rather than a bullet. The Cadillac turned right and sped off, some of the cars from the Deathrow entourage attempted to give chase but lost the Cadillac.

Suge at this time pulled a U turn and headed back down East Flamingo, the car eventually came to a halt in a median near Harmon Avenue with four flat tires due to running a red light and hitting the center divider of the road. Tupac was taken by ambulance from this location to the University Medical Center, the handling of things at this location was thought to have been strange by the police. Apparently police held Tupac's entourage at gun point and instructed them to get on the ground, it is thought these actions made most of the entourage unwilling to cooperate with the police.

September 13th six days after the shooting and six days of intensive care for Tupac including having his right lung removed being heavily sedated and being put on life support, Afeni Tupac's mom made the desicion to let Tupac's spirit be free. Tupac was revived several times but after each time was growing weaker and weaker, this is why Afeni made the desicion to let him go. At 4:03 pm Tupac was pronounced dead, the seemingly immortal Tupac had now passed on and many people was shocked after earlier doctors had announced they expected Tupac to pull through giving him a 50 - 50 chance and stating he had passed the critical stage.
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No matter how many years roll by or how many theories get proved wrong the Alive Theories will probably live on for many years to come. Lets look at it realistically anyway the theories are pretty interesting, believe what you wish about Tupac but you will always find a theory which atleast seems pretty strange or mind boggling. We at 2pacinfo.com firmly believe that Tupac Shakur passed away 13th September 1996, but you are entitled to your own opinion and the right to make your own assumptions so here is some of the best, most common alive theories we researched in all their glory. Note some theories might seem out of date or have been proved wrong this current day, but we display them simply for user interest.

Tupac was shot on September 7th.

Tupac died at the age of 25. (2+5=7)

Tupac survived the shooting through the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died on the 13th. (7 Dayz)

Official time of Tupac's death was 4:03 p.m. (4+0+3=7)

Tha Outlawz consisted of 7 members

In the video Toss It Up, Tupac breaks a mirror at the very end of the video. (7 Years of Bad Luck)

R U STILL DOWN was released on November 25th. Not only the age of his death, but 2+5=7.

Tupac's birthday is June 16th. (1+6=7)

In the Intro of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory, there are six gun shots going off, but when the songs starts, there's the 7th.

Tupac died on Friday the 13th. (this date is extremely superstitious)

The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references.

The only witness who was going to step up and ID the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.

There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.

In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"

In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.

In Richie Rich's album, "Seasoned Veteran," on the song called, "Niggas Done Changed," Tupac says, "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word, but best believe that niggas gonna get what they deserve..." The album was released on the same day as, "The 7 Day Theory."

In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan **** six months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..."

In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?

The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.

In the song, "Made Niggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "**** 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a mutha****in' made nigga..."

In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."

In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, traumatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."

In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?

The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.

"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13

In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.

In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completely escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)

In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this implies that Makaveli rose from the dead.

In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurrection? Why make people so suspicious?

Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century Italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.

Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."

Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same.

Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was canceled for unknown reasons.

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."

"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears...

Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?

"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..."

The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting.

"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few."

"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw ****, nigga check it..."

Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..."

Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album.

In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.

In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.

Is Kadafi really alive too? In, "Starin' At The World Through My Rearview," he says,"...as you reminisce wit your crew, smoke a blunt for me too, I'm starin' through your rearview..."

The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."

Tupac "died" in Las Vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.

The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?

The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was Tupac hit?

There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isn’t cashed.

In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?
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Why do people care about Tupac?
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Why do people care about Tupac?
He was interesting, smart, had something to say...even though some people didn't like the way he said it.

I really liked him. I was sad when he got shot. I was sad when Biggie got shot, too.
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You are on. I'll pay for 18 and cart. You bring the beer.
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6 beers a hole... x 18 holes... x 2 people..

Good thing its cheap american beer
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He was interesting, smart, had something to say...even though some people didn't like the way he said it.

I really liked him. I was sad when he got shot. I was sad when Biggie got shot, too.
Nah, not really. Another doped-up rapper with anger issues.

Him, Curt Cobain and Elvis are laughing their asses off down on a beach in Belize ...
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What kind of puppy does this look like?
Rottweiler mix.
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Rottweiler mix.
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Really?
This is what I get when I google image Rottweiler puppy:
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Awwww. How cute! <3
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I'll stick with bunnies. Puppies are cute but then they turn into dogs.
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Aw, that is cute indeed.
I love to watch puppies
Too bad they grow up to dogs

I'm watching a documentary about a face eating tumour.
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hahaha, I just said the same thing!
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