FS: 2000 NB TDI auto silver 185k

[reflexsilbug]

Hello--We've got a 2000 New Beetle TDI auto that we are considering selling. It has been well-maintained but it could use some additional work to be near perfect. It has 180k miles and is in great shape and running condition.

The GOOD:

1. New 100k timing belt all rollers, tensioner, water pump in the last year.
2. New vacuum hoses and N75.
3. New glowplugs.
4. New tires, rotors and front brakes.
5. Excellent body and paint.
6. Has alloy wheels and all the VW covers intact.
7. Radio antenna is not broken.
8. Intake manifold was cleaned in the last year.
9. Has Zerostart engine coolant heater installed.
10. New starter.
11. New anti-sway bar bushings.
12. Has had synthetic 5W40 Mobil Delvac 1 it's entire life.
13. Has factory splash guards.
14. 35-50 MPG.

The NOT SO GOOD:

1. Has some minor front end damage to the lower grille and radiator support.
2. Needs a new driver's mirror switch (knob is broken off).
3. Interior is OK but has wear and some stains.
4. Driver's heated seat does not work.
5. May need a new CV boot resealed.
6. Needs new lower control arm bushings.
7. May need struts since they are OEM to the car.

The car is reflex silver, comes with Cold Weather package, alloy wheels, ABS and sunroof (working). It's great car. Transmission works very well. We are the second owners and have owned this car since 2002. We bought it a 40k miles.

$5500 OBO. Located in Northern Illinois.

[Smileybug]

Pics would probably help

Ever had the trans fluid changed?

[OhSnap]

Aww, too bad it needs additional work - I can only afford what I can afford. But happy to bump!

[reflexsilbug]

Yes, I will post pics as soon as I can. I need the weather to cooperate so I can wash her!

We have not had the trans fluid changed. I have considered having it done, but I have heard too many horror stories about people changing it and then the trans going bad soon after. The auto is working well and I subscribe to the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" philosophy. At the same time, the car has been very well maintained in a two-TDI family.

Originally Posted by Smileybug

Pics would probably help

Ever had the trans fluid changed?

[reflexsilbug]

It doesn't need much work, really. This car is in great mechanical condition and is perfectly driveable.

Originally Posted by 24flinching

Aww, too bad it needs additional work - I can only afford what I can afford. But happy to bump!

[Opelmania]

I know a VW mechanic that used to work at Anderson and opened up his own shop in Woodstock that might want to pick this up or you could take it to him and get it fixed up at a good price and sell it for more. PM me if you want his info. You should've cleaned it on Saturday and taken pics on Easter.

[reflexsilbug]

Yeah, I should have, but the weather has been terrible and rainy and we were car shopping. In addition, I installed the front brakes!

At this point we would rather not spend a whole lot of money on the car. I personally would like to fix up a lot of the little things, but parts and labor just adds up. I believe the car is sellable as is, and should get $4500-5500 or more. I may end up putting it on cars.com or ebay, we'll see.

Originally Posted by Opelmania

I know a VW mechanic that used to work at Anderson and opened up his own shop in Woodstock that might want to pick this up or you could take it to him and get it fixed up at a good price and sell it for more. PM me if you want his info. You should've cleaned it on Saturday and taken pics on Easter.

[MichelleRoze]

180k on an auto tranny attached to a TDI? That's gotta be a record. There is too much torque on a TDI to last much longer than 150k especially without a fluid change.

Who did the tbelt repair? Metal impeller on the water pump? The intake has been cleaned, has the turbo been cleaned as well? No suspension work done? Are you really averaging up to 50mpgs? I had an auto tranny on my TDI and never got over 42 mpgs. Have a manual now and still not getting over 45 mpgs. Sorry, not trying to be rude but just skeptical when people say they get 50 mpgs in a TDI beetle with little to no mods. It's a selling point, I get it, but don't exaggerate.

Pics would be helpful also, dirty or not, give us an idea.

[reflexsilbug]

I don't think that is true. At TDIclub there are cars with well over 250k miles on the 01m auto. It's not the greatest tranny, but they can last. We have had no problems with it so we are leaving it alone. A new owner can do that if they want.

A trusted, local VW/Import shop did the timing belt on this car with a supplied and full T-belt kit from idparts.com, including metal impeller water pump. ALL rollers, tensioner, ALL associated parts have been replaced. We are a two TDI family currently and together we have owned diesels for 20 years. I have personally owned VWs for over 20, so we know how to maintain them.

The intake manifold has been thoroughly cleaned, the turbo is working fine. Yes, no suspension work, other than the anti-sway bar bushings, has been done. It will probably need new struts and certainly new lower control arm bushings. The car is perfectly safe and driveable as is, though.

As far as mileage, city is probably 30-35 and highway 40-50. I don't know that it often gets 50, but it can easily get 40-45. We are using full synthetic oil at every 10k mile oil change. Delvac 1 5W40 and Mobil 0W40 for topping off.

I will get pics up as soon as we have a bright, sunny day, which right now is hard to come by.

Originally Posted by MichelleRoze

180k on an auto tranny attached to a TDI? That's gotta be a record. There is too much torque on a TDI to last much longer than 150k especially without a fluid change.

Who did the tbelt repair? Metal impeller on the water pump? The intake has been cleaned, has the turbo been cleaned as well? No suspension work done? Are you really averaging up to 50mpgs? I had an auto tranny on my TDI and never got over 42 mpgs. Have a manual now and still not getting over 45 mpgs. Sorry, not trying to be rude but just skeptical when people say they get 50 mpgs in a TDI beetle with little to no mods. It's a selling point, I get it, but don't exaggerate.

Pics would be helpful also, dirty or not, give us an idea.

[reflexsilbug]

Pics of this car coming this week. Sorry about the delay.

[kcfoxie]

Originally Posted by reflexsilbug

I don't think that is true. At TDIclub there are cars with well over 250k miles on the 01m auto. It's not the greatest tranny, but they can last. We have had no problems with it so we are leaving it alone. A new owner can do that if they want.

A trusted, local VW/Import shop did the timing belt on this car with a supplied and full T-belt kit from idparts.com, including metal impeller water pump. ALL rollers, tensioner, ALL associated parts have been replaced. We are a two TDI family currently and together we have owned diesels for 20 years. I have personally owned VWs for over 20, so we know how to maintain them.

The intake manifold has been thoroughly cleaned, the turbo is working fine. Yes, no suspension work, other than the anti-sway bar bushings, has been done. It will probably need new struts and certainly new lower control arm bushings. The car is perfectly safe and driveable as is, though.

As far as mileage, city is probably 30-35 and highway 40-50. I don't know that it often gets 50, but it can easily get 40-45. We are using full synthetic oil at every 10k mile oil change. Delvac 1 5W40 and Mobil 0W40 for topping off.

I will get pics up as soon as we have a bright, sunny day, which right now is hard to come by.

First off I want links to successful 200k mile 01m TDIs. They don't exist, and I follow TDIClub pretty heavily. In fact the standard mantra is "that's a $5500 repairs waiting to happen."

The more highway miles the longer the transmission holds up, but the turbos especially in stop and go kill them. I've witnessed it locally with several cars, the highest mile one I've ever personally seen was a 1998 Yellow New Beetle with 225k with a 2.0 -- and she drove it to the dealer at 11 years old to trade it in for a new one. Most others fail before 180k, and driving style has a lot to do with how long they do or don't last. You've been lucky.

I've also never seen an auto get above 47mpg. I get 54mpg in my 5-speed consistently on the highway, I've gotten two 800 mile takes and 730-750 is what I consider "average" range highway with low to mid 600's the norm for city, except in the winter where the city drops to about 580-620. Overall I get 40 to 50, but I've not seen an auto Jetta or Beetle that topped 47mpg highway and that's WELL documented on tdiclub.

I'm just pointing out established fact, please don't take me for being a dick. I'm actually quite interested in this for my mom, but, yes, that transmission needs servicing. If you honestly think that 11 year old fluid of ANY kind is still functional (let alone fluid that heats up to the temps that transmission fluid does!), I've got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.

If you don't change it, the next owner should before they drive it away. It's about 120,000 miles over due.

[reflexsilbug]

You have some valid concerns foxie. I too am am avid TDICLUB member and have been since 2000. This has been a two-TDI family for 20 years. Yes, I know some of the issues with the 01M auto tranny but so should potential buyers. We have not had problems with the transmission nor is it exhibiting any issues now. How long will it last? I have no idea. I don't like speculating on future problems. I try to deal in knowns rather than unknowns. The fact is, the transmission is working well now and for the forseeable future. If there is an issue I will make note of it, as I have already in my pros/cons list. Some sellers are never that honest. This car has seen mostly highway miles with a grown-up female driver (my wife) and we have taken very good care of this car.

As far as servicing the transmission, I have debated that back and forth for the last few years but have decided to leave it alone since the TRANSMISSION IS WORKING correctly. Believe me, I know about proactive maintenance and repairs, just ask my wife. Any little issue and I am on it and wanting to order parts from idparts.com or World Impex and fix it. If someone wants to replace the trans oil and filter that is a good idea but that will be left for the new owner.

The car gets on average 35-45 MPG and sometimes higher on long distance runs without a lot of wind.

Pics to follow. Thanks for the interest.

Originally Posted by kcfoxie

First off I want links to successful 200k mile 01m TDIs. They don't exist, and I follow TDIClub pretty heavily. In fact the standard mantra is "that's a $5500 repairs waiting to happen."

The more highway miles the longer the transmission holds up, but the turbos especially in stop and go kill them. I've witnessed it locally with several cars, the highest mile one I've ever personally seen was a 1998 Yellow New Beetle with 225k with a 2.0 -- and she drove it to the dealer at 11 years old to trade it in for a new one. Most others fail before 180k, and driving style has a lot to do with how long they do or don't last. You've been lucky.

I've also never seen an auto get above 47mpg. I get 54mpg in my 5-speed consistently on the highway, I've gotten two 800 mile takes and 730-750 is what I consider "average" range highway with low to mid 600's the norm for city, except in the winter where the city drops to about 580-620. Overall I get 40 to 50, but I've not seen an auto Jetta or Beetle that topped 47mpg highway and that's WELL documented on tdiclub.

I'm just pointing out established fact, please don't take me for being a dick. I'm actually quite interested in this for my mom, but, yes, that transmission needs servicing. If you honestly think that 11 year old fluid of ANY kind is still functional (let alone fluid that heats up to the temps that transmission fluid does!), I've got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.

If you don't change it, the next owner should before they drive it away. It's about 120,000 miles over due.

[reflexsilbug]

Ok, here they are:

Yes, stickers can be removed for the new owner (LOL!).

[Fl_bug]

Originally Posted by kcfoxie

First off I want links to successful 200k mile 01m TDIs. They don't exist, and I follow TDIClub pretty heavily. In fact the standard mantra is "that's a $5500 repairs waiting to happen."

The more highway miles the longer the transmission holds up, but the turbos especially in stop and go kill them. I've witnessed it locally with several cars, the highest mile one I've ever personally seen was a 1998 Yellow New Beetle with 225k with a 2.0 -- and she drove it to the dealer at 11 years old to trade it in for a new one. Most others fail before 180k, and driving style has a lot to do with how long they do or don't last. You've been lucky.

I've also never seen an auto get above 47mpg. I get 54mpg in my 5-speed consistently on the highway, I've gotten two 800 mile takes and 730-750 is what I consider "average" range highway with low to mid 600's the norm for city, except in the winter where the city drops to about 580-620. Overall I get 40 to 50, but I've not seen an auto Jetta or Beetle that topped 47mpg highway and that's WELL documented on tdiclub.

I'm just pointing out established fact, please don't take me for being a dick. I'm actually quite interested in this for my mom, but, yes, that transmission needs servicing. If you honestly think that 11 year old fluid of ANY kind is still functional (let alone fluid that heats up to the temps that transmission fluid does!), I've got ocean front property to sell you in Arizona.

If you don't change it, the next owner should before they drive it away. It's about 120,000 miles over due.

Chris, Ivan's Golf TDI has an 01m and he just crossed 200k miles not too long ago. Not only that, but he has a VNT17 and big injectors. I think he is saving for a chip as well. I rode in his car several times and so far its still going strong.

[reflexsilbug]

Interior pics coming soon!

[TRANCEBOY]

sorry but i had to ask ?

in the back i see a little house that says pet wash station ?

is that like a car wash for dogs ?

[reflexsilbug]

Lol, yes, I never noticed that but we do have pets but don't take them here. It is a pet wash station next to a car wash--how funny is that? (or smart, depending how you look at it)

Originally Posted by TRANCEBOY

sorry but i had to ask ?

in the back i see a little house that says pet wash station ?

is that like a car wash for dogs ?

[reflexsilbug]

SOLD! Thanks for the interest everyone. We'll miss the bug, but we are enjoying our 2009 GLI!