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09-14-2006, 06:42 AM
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Apple OS X copies Beetle
Saw the sneak preview of Apples upcoming version of OS X, Leopard today.. Noticed that the "dashboard" icon was somewhat similar to our beloved speedo!
 I want icons instead of numbers too  
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09-14-2006, 06:47 AM
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It's neat.
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09-14-2006, 11:35 AM
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Yea its been on OS X for a long time. I noticed that at an apple store...pretttty neat i think! Makes it easy to recognize where im going!
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09-14-2006, 01:20 PM
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I must be out for a fight. according to this ComputerWorld Article ( http://www.computerworld.com/action/...&intsrc=kc_top ) MS Windows Vista runs faster on a Dual Core Intel-based MacBook Pro than the competing Sony Viao notebook.
Furthering that, the Mac Pro (I will NEVER get used to these Intel names!) Dual Processor, QuadCore Woodcrest Intel tower is cheaper and faster than the Dell par this C|Net (who historically HATES Apple) article here: http://reviews.cnet.com/4531-10921_7-6625581.html So, faster I don't get. They are faster. In my opinion, they always have been before Intel. As for buggy, I won't mention the fact that Mac OS X has all of 3 (and they're all the same) worms in the past decade that's affected the system, perhaps 4 if you count the rare Mac OS 9/MS Outlook Express I love you-like Simpsons worm. Windows, According to McAfee's website DAT current version of antivirus virus data DAT files, has at least 208926 threats (link: http://vil.nai.com/vil/DATReadme.aspx) So, I fail to see your logic. Apple's computers are usually better looking (I can't stand the iMac revision right now, it's dull and so 1999), faster, cheaper and longer lasting. A Mac holds a better resell value than a Windows PC, the size and weight has a lot to do with that I'd imagine. Your friendly neighborhood Apple Certified Specialist correcting the misconceptions at large Quote:
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09-14-2006, 01:48 PM
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I dont care much for tests. They are all sponsored by the evil Apple coorporation. You compare MacBook Pro with the Sony Vaio notebook.. I would never ever concider buying a Sony computer, THAT is asking for trouble! So much for that test..
My office counts six people, all on newer Mac's(except me) and they all have diffirent issues. They freeze, erase mailaccounts, show matrix-screens and on top of that they operate slower than my pc. Opening large illustrator and photoshop-files takes AGES compared to my pc. But startup of the mac is much faster etc. You need that when you reboot every other minute...  So shove your way to high priced design-apple-mac-crap up a non specified place where the sun dont shine!! Just kidding.. The macs look good though
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09-14-2006, 02:05 PM
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Cheaper? errr uhhh ... ok.
I just bought a PC for $600 total. Where can you buy a Mac for that? (Oh, and it is faster than runny poo).
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09-14-2006, 05:31 PM
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They did have the $499 Mac Mini, but since it went intel it's $699. That's the best I can compare to, and that's sans monitor or keyboard or mouse.You can get some gotta-have-it-now elitist's 5 months old system for $500 on ebay, still under warranty, if that counts. But brand new, it's not happening. Also, what are the specs of that $600 unit compared to the $699 mini? Did it come with a dual core 1.8Ghz processor? Did it have 512 or more MB ram or an 80GB HD? CD-RW or DVD-RW? You can compare a $600 Pinto to a $6000 Porsche and say they're both cars and the Pinto is better because it's cheaper but simply that's NOT the case (unless you want to factor in repairs).
If your agency is using Intel systems (Mac Pros and not G5s) then the problem is that the computer is emulating the PowerPC-coded Adobe programs. It will be another year before Adobe gets the Univeral (Intel/PowerPC) program together to get it running right. I work with scientists, we work with JMP and a host of other analytical data. It's a constant debate, and yet the Mac always wins out especially in the Adobe arena. Also, I can't say the G5 was the best thing designed. Mine has a chronic freezing syndrome that seems to be somewhat common to the single-processor G5s. I blame IBM, because they rapidly produced the chips and lowerf QC, then backstabbed Apple to sell the 3Ghz models to MS for the xBox 360. The intel systems have proven that they are an impovement over G5 systems, however, the software is still not written for the Intel processor. Comparing Firefox/PPC and FireFox/Intel, the Intel version renders a lot faster. It's hard in a transition period to accuratly compare old to new if they're running the same software and one has to emulate the other. And, if you're that unhappy, reboot it into Windows XP. You can't reboot your Sony, Dell or HP into Mac OS X (without a lot of hacking anyway). I've always prefered the Mac OS, and with the UNIX core (which lets me talk to 17 printers ranging from 18 years to 8 months in age at home -- i love to print) I can't see anything wrong with it. The matrix-screen is likely the Samsung-powered monitor issue, 30" diaplys, right? The aluminum ones? It's a bad monitor, and Apple will replace it. Sucks, but that's just what you get sometimes. We've had dell notebooks come in here with rows of dead pixils and Dell want to argue that we damaged it, Apple just hands us a new unit no questions asked. Operarting slower doing what task? Editing a video using Processor-specific software, or Editing it with PowerPC-running-on-Intel software? It's just like I said about Adobe/Intel Macs -- they're NOT going to be faster due to the sheer fact that the Intel unit is emulating an older processor to make it run. It's something we're dealing with here as well. Furthermore, poorly managed (do you have certified IT staff?) systems ALWAYS run slower, we deal with that here as well with some of the recently let-go staff. It takes a good support department (or good end user) to maintain any system. You can't tell me never installing Windows updates, defragging the HD, or running virus scans over a long period of time will keep the PC from slowing down. It will slow down too. The Macs, if powered off without shutting down properly, can damage their file systems which is the #1 case of sluggish performance. A simple command ran from the UNIX prompt in singer user mode startup can fix that, and 99% of Mac users have NO CLUE how to do it. I'd love to hear more about your setup, because I bet I can resolve most of your issues. Regarding my quoted links, they're all external and non-Apple affiliated. I'd LOVE for you to show me how much Apple paid C|NET (the dying computer source) to say their product is good when I can hand you 10 years worth of "This Apple product bites" from them. And I agree, Sony sucks, but I didn't pick the test. Dell's struggling to match the cost-per-options of Apple's systems, specing out a Dell notebook vs a MacBook, other than the Dell throwing in more RAM, the Dell was $100 more with just more RAM than the MacBook and the MacBook had a DVD-RW and the Dell had a CD-RW/DVD-ROM. You tell me which is more useful, the dell was also 2x as thick and 1/3 the battery life.
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09-14-2006, 05:39 PM
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My specs: Which actually totalled to $531.94 ($547.03 with shipping) (Bought from newegg.com)
PSU TT | W0070 430W RTL - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$39.99) VGA PWRCLR X800GTO256MBDDR3 RT - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$89.99) DVD+/-RW NEC ND-3550A BK % - OEM (Qty=1, Price=$28.99) CABLE USB2.0 EXT| AM/AF 6FT BLACK% - OEM (Qty=1, Price=$1.99) MB ECS NFORCE4M-A (V1.1) NF4 4X AM2 - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$59.99) CPU AMD|A64 X2 3800+ AM2 2x512K R - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$151.00) MEM 1Gx2|CORSAIR VS2GBKIT667D2 R - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$159.99) I already had a sexah monitor, and a sexah case ... a keyboard and mouse (which are both inexpensive). As for a hard drive ... I have two which total 200GB. They have lasted FOREVER so, no need to get new ones. Windows XP Pro cost me $30 from a friend who works at Microsoft ...  Sexah. And, I installed everything (vid drivers included) in about 30min. WOOT!The case Ive had since 2001 (everything fits in it - old or new technology) ... no need to update that either. It isnt the average vanilla (or gray) PC case either. Looks like this ... kinda. Without hte black stuff on the front.  Last edited by digitalputty; 09-14-2006 at 05:45 PM..
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09-14-2006, 05:52 PM
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... and it has Yahoo! widgets on it.
3D Studio Max Adobe Photoshop CS 2 Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0 <-- yes, you can edit video on a PC! HOLY CRAP! And ... it works GREAT! Painter 9.5 Maya Silo They all work with NO crashing, no interruptions ... and... oh dear. I can listen to MUSIC at the SAME time ... while running 3DSM ... Photoshop and Premiere (both mem hogs) and talk to my friends on Yahoo! or MSN messenger. WOOT! This is all without taking up all my resources too.
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09-14-2006, 06:01 PM
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How odd. Anyway, for what it's worth, here is the story of my transition to the world of Mac. See, way back, I think it was the early to middle 80’s, I had a Apple II clone, called LAZER. Yes, I spelled that right. It had a separate monitor, that I think was big and bulky, and only displayed the color green. Anyway, that was my first computer...well, no, not quite. I just remembered I had a TRS-80... Anyway...so, where was I? Oh yeah..Okay, so I had that Trash 80 for a while, then I got the Lazer, and then, I got my first real PC, a 286. Well, that one I managed to upgrade and upgrade, until, about 15 years after I first got it, I had to replace it. So I did, with a HP XP Media Center, and right out of the box, it was buggy. I had to call HP help like three times the first day. It never ran well after that start. It has a Light Scribe that did not work tight, FWIW, as well. Still, trying to be faithful to the PC, I got a Gateway Laptop, which, I can’t honestly say was good at all. It just died on me. All the way. Kaput. Dead Jim, you get the picture? Which really sucked since it was so young, less then six months old. So, I went to the Apple Site, www.apple.com and looked into a iMac. I was impressed, to say the least. I got this one, a iMac with a 20-inch wide screen LCD with 1680x1050 resolution, a 2.0GHz Intel Core Duo with 2MB shared L2 cache, 2GB of memory, a 250GB Serial ATA hard drive, Slot-load 8x double-layer SuperDrive, a ATI Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB GDDR3 memory, built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0, with a Apple Remote. (iMac models also feature: three USB 2.0 ports, two FireWire 400 ports, built-in AirPort Extreme wireless networking, Gigabit Ethernet, mini-DVI video out, built-in stereo speakers, a built-in microphone, and audio in/out jacks.) And it all sits on my desk with out taking up much space. I also got a Mini Mac. It has a 1.5GHz Intel Core Solo processor, with 2MB L2 Cache, a 667MHz Frontside Bus, and again 2GB of memory, with a 60GB Serial ATA hard drive, a Combo drive (DVD-ROM/CD-RW) and also built-in AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth 2.0, with a Apple Remote.. (and all Mac mini models also include an integrated Intel GMA950 graphics processor with 64MB of shared DDR2 SDRAM(1), 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet, four external USB 2.0 ports, FireWire 400 port, optical digital and analog audio in/out, and built-in mono speaker.) With my left over HP 22 inch monitor (with DVI) hooked up to it, the picture is stunning. Frankly, since turning on the iMac, I have had no trouble. It runs well, is faster then my old PC, and I can run Windows XP with a Parallels for Mac program, that lets me seamlessly switch between the two OS with out having to reboot, and Windows works much better in Apple's OS then by itself. It's like it's free of all the junk that a PC drags it down with.
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09-14-2006, 08:52 PM
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 I love bugs, as long as they have big wheels. No, sorry guys. I'm just having fun with you. Apple computers is great, and with time it will be even better. Maybe some day I'll convert?! Become a muslim and buy myself a mac. kcfoxie: You write too much, I havent got time to read it all. Since i dont understand english I have to use babelfish.altavista.com to translate it from english to chineese to swedish to german to french. And then i have to ask my girlfriend to read it for me. Same procedure the other way around
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09-14-2006, 09:27 PM
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Back to the WIDGETS.
If you have a PC and are just dying for some multi-colored widgets Yahoo has them for you too. http://widgets.yahoo.com Actually I just got an Imac as well, but am having a bit of trouble, I want to get my music,video's and photo's off my old PC and onto the Imac and I also want to put XP on the Imac (never heard of Parallels -what's that?) but I tried both of these things this past weekend and just about put my fist through the screen. I'm probably an exception to the rule, everybody here seems very knowledgeable about PC's and mac's Could somebody help me out a little? Shoot me a PM.
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09-14-2006, 09:43 PM
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The case is a cool green, but I'm not one for a big tower anymore. I've really grown to love the small desktop cases, or nonexistant ones. I've always loved Apple for the all-in-ones, because I've never had a lot of space to work with. Digital - not to knock, but you know Premier is dead next to FCP, right? I've used both, and I knew Premier LONG before FCP (so I never bothered), but it would appear that a large number of Hollywood types and indie types are using the very, very cheap Apple digital media systems (at one time you could do it all for about 5 grand, software included. I'm sure there is still some configuration to do that; but I doubt it'll include DVD Studio Pro). You use Logic? Apple owns that now, too. Apple has really bought out most of the entertainment world. Not that i'm really upset by this, except for that DRM crap my 1.8Ghz G5 handles these tasks daily: IE 5 FireFox beta 2 Safari 2 Adium (AIM/Yahoo cleitnw tih 5 names signed on at the same time) Dual monitors at higher than 1024x768 res on both displays Apple Remote Desktop (NOT a light application when connected to +5 screens at one time) TextEdit Office 2004: Word, Entourage (sometimes PPT and Excel) ..here recently: Classic environment (second OS booted up into a transparent layer to run classic applications - this is a COMPLETE memory and CPU hog) MS Outlook 2001 (Classic) Apple Mail 2.0 (non-Classic) PST import Tool for Entourage (Also not classic) In short, I'm moving about 3-10GB of email a day through 3 programs and uploading it to a server for end users in a massive upgrade/security compliance project at work. I miss the simple days of just editing video footage. I also have terminal open every day, all day. This week, the G5 only froze once. I think it knows my new Mac Pro was ordered. I've only got 2GB of Ram and a 80GB HD, this thing is like a 2003 model -- it's starting to feel old. It's one of the few single-processor systems. My next laptop will be a dual core and the tower will be a "Quad" core (dual core x 2 processors). I can't wait for Parallels on the laptop so I can run VAGCOM on a laptop with a functional battery (something my old 1998 IBM Thinkpad has lacked for many, many years).
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09-15-2006, 04:17 AM
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Uhh ... ok. I dont think so ... Final Cut Pro? Errrrr no. More like After Effects, Smoke, Combustion ... those are the creme of the crop ... not FCP.
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09-15-2006, 05:13 AM
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I have a superpowerful PC and my G5 dual 2.0 gigahertz blows the doors off the Wintel (and I dont get spyware an virus!)
No matter how cheap the wintels, they are not worth the trouble...
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09-15-2006, 07:30 AM
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 Go there, and seek thee the ways of the Parallels Desktop for Mac. It will work on your Intel Mac. BUT! It is a new product, and as such, can be odd. Like, I had to upload a (free) program called BONJOUR to get my XP to print to my Apple printer...and you have to 'tell' your XP what USB ports you want to use. You can only use two at a time. Which is not so hard as it sounds...like, you want to access a thumb drive, say; you just tell the XP where it is. Oh, you can figure it out. I did. One other thing that Parallels does not seem to do, is to read DVD, despite having a DVD player in the iMac. Now, it's not a big deal to me, since I can watch DVD in many other ways. What I use Parallels for is to access some programs that I have, that are only PC based, at least for now. See, the way I figure it, now that Intel is in a Apple, more programs will be soon available for the Mac then before.
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I think the industry has spoken.
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09-15-2006, 01:01 PM
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The more I search, and given my family ties to RCA/Warner Bros Pictures, and the fact the G. Lucas publicized that the final Star Wars were Mac edited and filmed digital, really doens't convince me that Premier is the lead. I have a friend whose won oh gah I can't remember the award, it is an award given to up and coming documentary writers. Anyway, he hates Macs and his entire editing setup if FCP-based, done so by strong recommendation of the Sun Dance winners and attendees/entrants that he's known over the years. His primary writing system is a HP notebook, his editing house is all G5s. I'm just not convinced, and I'm just stating my case. Again, this is my profession (sorta, I may be moving into support for creative professionals soon).
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09-15-2006, 07:09 PM
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Oh, and Peter Frampton recorded some of his latest album using Garageband, for Apple..
Just thought I would throw that in.
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