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Old 02-05-2007, 03:23 AM
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Why is my snowflake stuck on? It's been on for a few weeks now and, after coming back from the mountain, it just stayed on forever. I tried switching from F to C but that didn't do anything. It's not a huge deal, but I feel special when I see it because it's usually not so often. Now, I see it all the time!
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:52 AM
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What is the outside temp in your area ... Mine is usually on under 40 degrees ... we don't get that much here but have for the last few weeks.
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:57 AM
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Until mine was reset, mine was stuck on ALL THE TIME. We'd laugh our butts off with the temperature reading 115 with a snowflake...
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:20 AM
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Mine kicks on at 40* and it's definitely not that cold here!!!

Alan, how do you reset it?
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:36 AM
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Mine kicks on at 40* and it's definitely not that cold here!!!

Alan, how do you reset it?
It was reset at the time that I had my battery changed out...

I believe that the power interruption reset it. (just an assumption on my part)
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:50 AM
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I may try that. Thanks!
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Old 02-05-2007, 10:59 AM
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lol. BB and I barely ever have the cute snowflake... it would be funny to get up to 120 degrees and still have the snowflake on LOL

Tell us if Alans method works!
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Old 02-05-2007, 12:07 PM
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There actually is a problem on the 98/99 models with the snow flake coming on and not going back off. The only way to reset it is to interrupt the power in some manner. The easiest way it to unplug the sensor which is down by the driver's side fog light or where the fog light would be if you don't have fog lights. You should be able to unplug it there and it will reset. You can unplug the battery as well. Just have your radio code handy just in case.
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Actually, I didn't think this was a problem that was only for the '98-'99 NBs. I thought it happened with all of them. Mine does it.

Here's my understanding.

The snowflake (if on) only goes off when the temp goes from 39 to 40. It has to make that specific jump in order for it to know to shut the snowflake off.

So, say in the morning on your way to work it drops down below 42, and the snowflake comes on. You get to work, the snowflake is on, and throughout the day, it warms up. So you start the car at the end of the day and it's now 50 degrees. Since the car wasn't on during that climb from 39-40, it doesn't know to turn off the snow flake.

Really, just a bad piece of code.


If (PreviousTemp=39) and (NewTemp=40) Then
SnowFlake = False
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Old 02-05-2007, 03:53 PM
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Interesting info Pete. I'm pretty sure my car was still under 40 when I started it back up seing as I was in the mountains, but I could be wrong. But yes, very dumb coding on their part.

Su, is this thingy by the fog light a switch I should see?
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By the way, my (flawed) thinking is that the snowflake kicks in at about 40 degrees because it's function is as an "(black) ice alert", much the same as the British Rover. It really has no use unless there is an audible alarm to go along with it to forewarn you...
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Why is my snowflake stuck on? It's been on for a few weeks now and, after coming back from the mountain, it just stayed on forever. I tried switching from F to C but that didn't do anything. It's not a huge deal, but I feel special when I see it because it's usually not so often. Now, I see it all the time!
I think it just likes the snow just as much as you do!!!
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The problem was fixed in the late 2000 model year. I know it was fixed in 2001. I had the problem with my 98, but didn't with my 2001, 2003 or 2006. This problem caused much discussion on "the list" from what I remember.

bmxbugzzi - It is not a switch but rather a temp sensor. If you release the temp sensor from its mounting bracket (looks like a plastic C clip the last time I looked), you should be able to unplug the sensor from the wire harness.

I thought of another way to do it but someone needs to determine which fuse to pull. You can pull the fuse for the display and reset it that way. I just don't remember which fuse it is and if its the same fuse on all model years.
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:58 PM
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Why is my snowflake stuck on? It's been on for a few weeks now and, after coming back from the mountain, it just stayed on forever. I tried switching from F to C but that didn't do anything. It's not a huge deal, but I feel special when I see it because it's usually not so often. Now, I see it all the time!
My understanding was that this was an indication that the Mother Ship is seeking contact, and you need to push in your radio's volume-control knob. Now, of course, this only works on a non-Monsoon radio, because that's the power switch on those, but what I'd heard was that what seems to do nothing at all actually kicks in the transceiver relaying important information about your Bugzzi, you, and any passengers. Kind of like a Nielson Rating for your car.

Also, that round cover in the front bumper, the one for the "tow hook"? That's where they insert the probe.

Hope this helps!
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Old 02-06-2007, 01:47 AM
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Justin! LOL!!!!!! I'll be sure not to push in my radio volume knob so I don't get an anal probe in the middle of the night!

Thanks for all the info Su! I'll crawl under there tomorrow in the daylight to see if I can figure it out!
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If (PreviousTemp=39) and (NewTemp=40) Then
SnowFlake = False
End If
So it's this stupid endless loop of code that runs our batteries down when we park at the airport for 2 weeks.

I thought the temp was also monitored when I was not in the car .... like get to work and it is 43 degrees, and at noon go to lunch and it is 73 degrees before I turn the key.
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Old 02-06-2007, 03:17 AM
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Mine doesn't do that. If I get home and it's 60, it'll be 60 when I turn it on in the morning until it figures out which way to go.
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Old 02-06-2007, 10:13 PM
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Mine used to do that, but when I got an autodim (newer model, display on at all times) that doesn't happen any more. But I do still follow the signals for transmission.
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I know my snowflake comes on in the 40s sometimes, but not all the time LOL but it turns off.

For example today it was 84 degrees out, and no snowflake... so mine doesnt get stuck, but it does stay on into the 40s SOMETIMES lol
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:19 AM
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Ok ok...I'm gonna borrow a brain cell and ask...What the heck are you all talking about...ahem...sorry. What is this SNOWFLAKE you're all refering too?
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