window switch working backwards - NewBeetle.org Forums
NewBeetle.org Forums
Go Back   NewBeetle.org Home > NewBeetle.org Forums > Discussion - Technical > Questions, Issues, Concerns, or Problems with the New Beetle

Questions, Issues, Concerns, or Problems with the New Beetle General discussion of New Beetle features, problems, and issues.

NewBeetle.org is the premier Volkswagen Beetle Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2010, 04:12 AM
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Default window switch working backwards

I own a 2000 new beetle with power driver and passenger windows. I had lots of electrical issues earlier that I have more or less worked out....except this one...

The passenger side window control works normally. The drivers side control works normally for the passenger side window. But the driver side control seems to have reversed itself for the drivers side window...in other words pushing DOWN on the switch makes the drivers side window go UP and vice versa. Same thing happens when I lock the doors with the key and hold it to "close" the windows. The passenger side goes up but the drivers side goes down!

Any way to reset this electrically? I can live with it for now but it is just weird!

Thanks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2010, 07:53 AM
Deserion's Avatar
Moddin' Lion
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location:
Jacksonville, FL, USA
Car: '95 E320, '04 986
Default

I'm wondering if it's a fault in the window motor. Have you tried unhooking the battery for a while?
__________________
Currently: 1995 Mercedes E320; 2004 Porsche 986 Boxster
Previously:
Phahom, 2005 Beetle 1.8T; Milen, 2000 Beetle 2.0L; Daku, 2007 GTI 2.0T; Mateka, 2003 Beetle TDI

Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2010, 08:21 AM
simonsi's Avatar
Jitterbug
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location:
Auckland, New Zealand
Car: 2000 NB 2.0
Default

Sounds like the wiring at the drivers motor is reversed (as both the switch and the ECU drive the same way, most likely is the motor wiring is reversed somehow...
__________________
Cheers

Simon
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2010, 05:51 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deserion View Post
I'm wondering if it's a fault in the window motor. Have you tried unhooking the battery for a while?
I had this car in the shop one week ago to have the alternator and battery replaced, so I am sure it was without power for a while during maintenance. If I were to disconnect the battery, for how long? And isn't there a radio anti-theft problem I have to address?

Thanks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-22-2010, 05:52 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by simonsi View Post
Sounds like the wiring at the drivers motor is reversed (as both the switch and the ECU drive the same way, most likely is the motor wiring is reversed somehow...
I may get aggressive and look at that when I have a door panel off anyhow.....for now I may live with it and look at the wiring when I have to open up the door for another reason.

Thanks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-27-2010, 03:06 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location:
Griffin, GA, USA
Car: 2000 TDI GLS
Lightbulb Elecrical issues

are such fun to deal with sometimes! I suggest like some above that due to 'poking about' in the wiring either at the door switch or the window motor, somehow have been reversed. I was going to suggest the switch itself had been put into the assembly upside down, but if the key operated function also works reversed, then the culprit is probably the motor wiring. USUALLY the contacts / wiring are arranged so that it's really difficult to do things backwards, but difficulty doing things wrong is only a minor challenge to 'some' techs.
Can't remember if the switches have the terminals marked, but if they do, here we go:
On the lift motor of '98 thru '02 cars, there's a red wire with white stripe on terminal T29/20 and a white wire with red stripe on terminal T29/7 which travels to the window switch, terminal T5D/1. If these are reversed at the motor the window may work reversed. On the window switch, the brown wire with blue stripe is the ground. The remaining wire on the drivers window switch is green with blue stripe on terminal T5D/3. These are in connectors that will only go in one way unless one has a terminal disconnecting tool that allows the terminals to be pulled out without damage SNAP-ON~TT600 ELECTRICAL HARNESS TERMINAL TOOL SET: eBay Motors (item 220609338037 end time May-30-10 16:30:00 PDT) . So be alert for any splices of any kind, anywhere in your car (the factory doesn't do that, you know).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-30-2010, 11:08 PM
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Default reset window actuator

I spoke to the original owner this weekend. (I've only owned the car a month) and he confirms that the windows DID work correctly. We bought another key/fob for the car and had some issues reprogramming it. I am going to be this is an electronic problem. Is there a way to "reset" the window actuator. And/or do you think resetting the key fob might fix this?

Thanks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-30-2010, 11:30 PM
simonsi's Avatar
Jitterbug
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location:
Auckland, New Zealand
Car: 2000 NB 2.0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
I spoke to the original owner this weekend. (I've only owned the car a month) and he confirms that the windows DID work correctly. We bought another key/fob for the car and had some issues reprogramming it. I am going to be this is an electronic problem. Is there a way to "reset" the window actuator. And/or do you think resetting the key fob might fix this?

Thanks
Nope, I think the wiring has been reversed. But IŽd be happy to be proved wrong either way I hope you find a fix for it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the NewBeetle.org Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Trunk Switch not working ci3edi 2.0 Liter Gas 6 05-06-2010 06:18 PM
Mirror Switch still not working... RandyN 2.0 Liter Gas 3 05-05-2010 11:22 PM
Driver side electric window switch,door light and door lock not working. Bug2003 Questions, Issues, Concerns, or Problems with the New Beetle 6 06-13-2009 01:51 AM
Fuel Door Switch Not Working? hawke12 Questions, Issues, Concerns, or Problems with the New Beetle 7 11-19-2008 08:28 PM
A/C/Heater switch not working rjs77 Questions, Issues, Concerns, or Problems with the New Beetle 1 08-19-2007 05:50 PM

All times are GMT. The time now is 11:04 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2