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Since it was voted upon to do Roswell every two years and Earl and Jerry and the guys/gals are wanting to pass the baton as well as allow us to make the show into what we want...spend some time thinking about what you liked about the show...what you would like to see added, subtracted, changed and post them up.
With suggestions following through and taking the initiative to help out is the best way to make sure what you want to see happen does happen. It's OUR show now - LOL - so it's our turn to put up and show what we can produce. With everyone doing a little, it will make much less work for all those involved in the show...PLUS, it really does make you feel good when you see others having such a great time at something that you had a hand in creating. That's what did it for those of us that organized this years event and other shows - it's the people that attend and have a great time that makes it worth the headache (an the Uhaul trailer rental-LOL) ![]() No better time to start planning than the present...while it is still fresh in our minds. There are alot of TNBRU ideas that we got from Roswell that I will post up that might be ideas that others would find a valid addition to the show.
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shorter show time - 4 hours instead of 5 stay in Roswell(not another city) parade to a group photo opp 5 hours in 100 plus heat was way too long. I think the show should stay in Roswell because it's a tradition and we already have the support of the city. A larger city isn't going to care(too much) that a group of 50-100 cars is coming. We NEED a group photo. I so wanted this to happen and it didn't. But it has to be scheduled ahead of time so everyone knows about it.
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in addition..... maybe move the "car show site" from the UFO Museum to a city park..?? it may give us more shade and a car show in the park is always nice.. could be tied in with live music, a BBQ or something along those lines... then the show time could be longer too... if we do have a car show, with awards, have classes with participant and public ballots (TNBRU style)... if not then the "fun awards" are cool too... I for one thought that was a nice touch... this next one maybe hard for everyone to stomach.... a few of us "first-timers" were saying we would have gladly paid to be part of this past week-ends fun... maybe charge a registration fee for a portion of the event..?? this might help in off-setting the out of pocket cost it takes to pull this thing off... awards, t-shirts and what not...
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The heat was pretty damn bad this year. Maybe the worst ever. If we could do it the 2nd weekend in June, it might be a little less hot.
And I agree we need a group photo, of cars AND people. I had intended to get a group photo of people at the banquet but with everything going on I forgot about it. We have in the past gone to Carlsbad on Sunday for a movie, and the first year we carabugged out to Bottomless Lakes State park...that might be a good place for photos. Or heck, Carabug to Ruiodoso! The city seems gung-ho on keeping us there, and I would hate to disappoint them. Since the city is already behind us, I don't see why we wouldn't want to stay in Roswell. Things I liked about this year: -The Friday shindig was IN TOWN rather than way outside, which meant that it was a very short time. Not to mention free drinks (Always had to pay at the Clubhouse outside of town!) -The show itself, at the UFO museum location. I thought that was a lot better place to have it than the convention center, as we were smack in the middle of downtown and could wander around there to get out of the heat. -the banquet AT the Hotel, not at the convention center. Again, convenience. Stuff I didn't like: The parade. I think the Police just wanted us off the street. Not sure why we didn't do as before, but the "parade" wasn't much of one this year. The raffle was way too long. Don't get me wrong, I liked the free stuff! But the raffle itself was too long... On that note, the banquet shouldn't be that long again. However, I think it was fine for this year, as this year really "Closed the book" for a lot of us old timers on the show that we started. So it won't be necessary to do such a long program next time. Everyone did seem to be enjoying themselves, though. As Antoine mentioned, this year had a real "Changing of the gaurd" type feel to it. Those of us who were (and still are) on the original email list and have attended the show from the beginning have seen 10 years of our lives pass since this started. It's time for a new generation to take charge. I'm sure whatever you guys come up with it will be great! |
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There is a great park that we could use for an "on the green" event if so desired. Cahoon park, I think. Of course, that would take us away from downtown, too, which would mean that many locals probably wouldn't come see us as they have in the past. In the past years, we had award categories for Stock, Mod Stock, and Custom for EVERY model year. That meant a butt-load of trophies. I liked this year's setup much better. "Fun" trophies with a few extras. This was actually the first year where there WASN'T a paid fee. If I remember, the fee was usually about $15, with the banquet being $25, so at least $35 for the whole event. The registration fee included a shirt. Personally, I liked this year's approach where if you wanted a shirt, you could buy it, but you didn't have to. However, I wouldn't be opposed to a small fee, as long as it doesn't get overly expensive... |
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Those are all good ideas!
Good: --cool raffle prizes --delicious dinner --nice hotel with a pool and free breakfast --Lots of townspeople came to the show --easy access to downtown shops and restaurants plus all day access to museum (A/C!!) --cool awards Not So Good: --long raffle --parade was fast --not many townspeople for the parade --HOT - but better than hail, rain, tornados, etc. --no group photo --someone was supposedly going to take orders for lunch on Saturday and menus were handed out. We waited and waited but gave up and walked down the block to get lunch. --sound was weird during the banquet. Is there an echo in the building?? haha Last edited by CoriBug; 06-29-2009 at 08:38 PM.. |
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Just a few things to consider.
The civic center and parade cost lots of money. You have to have premises liability insurance for the civic center. That's a huge expense. The parade requires state approval since it shuts down a state highway. Yes, the police wanted us off the street fast. I would suggest asking the city where they hold parades. A six to eight block parade route that is not on the state highway may be preferrable. 1. Make the show be 4 hours rather than 5. 2. Name tags for everyone - heck make your own and maybe place your picture on your car with your entry form so people know who goes with which car. Also put your "org" handle on your name tag. (Why didn't I think of this earlier?) 3. Loved having the banquet at the Sally Port. The food was good. If we could have a larger room away from the pool, that would be great. There are darn few places that can accomodate such a large crowd. The expense was mitigated by being on site rather than having the banquet at another site. This also holds down other insurance expenses. 4. Move the show up at least one or two weekends. Once you hit the summer solstice, the heat sets in. Roswell was cooler just 2 weeks ago but the heat set in last week. 5. Group photos - nice to do but very difficult to do. Group photo of just attendees (without cars) would be doable with the right camera/lens. 6. Raffle is OK. 7. The banquet program of a slide show of the current show was fun to do and fun to watch. It lets everyone see whatever they missed or what others did on their caravans. DVD available after the show weekend will be a plus (see future thread on DVD availability soon). The MC was funny (we love you Jerry!). 8. No additional entertainment - again a major expense. 9. Being in a park sounds like a good idea. Not sure what kind of expense that would be. Check with the city. I'll probably think of more later.
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I do agree with the awards though, there is no reason to have an award for EVERY model year.. just in those classes stock, mod stock, and custom... and the fun awards too... ![]() |
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What about using the military institute up the road from the museum for the show? I don't know what would be needed to do that. There was lots of trees and grass for an event of that caliber.
I was thumbing through my newest issue of hot VWs and saw something rather cool. Hot wheels races. It's basically a ramp that goes to a small straight and into a paded box to catch the cars. If there is any interest in this I would be more than happy to build a project like that. Maybe if this idea is embraced we could have prizes handed out for the winners? Shade of sorts for the show would be good. A group shot would be sweet. How much would it cost for a fly over? Name Tags I'm all for it! I'm sure I'll think of more things within the next year and a half! ![]()
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Let me see...
Raffle...yeah, too long, but I think we were really vamping and waiting for the Photo people to show up (which by the way we all need to post our photos for everyone to see! ) They were supposed to show up at 9:00...and I reminded Jerry at 9:30, so they were a little late.Things that I liked... -Friday get there or free day was nice -Friday night at the UFO Museum...nice meet and greet location. -No fee for the show! (hell, if we can get the same folks to help us out like they did this year it really makes it more fun) -UFO parking lot/tent and chairs provided. Unless you have organized a show, you don't know how great having someone provide a tent and chairs for you is! -I also liked that the parking lot was just the right size, the convention center parking lot is just too big for our show. I could see us stacking at least another 10 cars in there with a little room to spare. -The ability for folks to come and go as well as get out of the heat if needed (I didn't this year, too busy to even duck under the tent for more than official business) -That the even was located right next to the UFO Museum and the Police Department were huge pluses...the background of many photos have UFO in them from their signage on the side of the building, which helps with the identification of place in my mind...and the police, well, I knew my trailer wasn't going to get ganked when I left it there the night before and during the banquet. -The photo guy that did the abduction photos!!! He wasn't having as much fun as us...but glad he was there to take the photos. -Banquet went well, would have been better if not near the pool, but all things considered, I thought that it went much better than I expected in that space once everyone figured out how to use the microphone. -Jerry...great MC, next time I will fix the ballot so you can read the awards in order, instead of having to jump around! LOL As cheasy as the I thought the "You might be a New Beetle owner" was going to be...you pulled it off man! ![]() -The slide shows! They were a great addition!!! -The ability to hang out in the parking lot till weeeeee hours drinking and not getting hassled by "The Man"...3-5Trucks! -The people! The people were amazing! That's what makes the show! Everyone from casual driver to crazy fanatic seemed to have a great time one way or another! That's really what makes a good show...if you can see that everyone had a great time! -Not having a Sunday event so folks that needed to get home didn't feel like they missed out on something. Things that kinda sucked - LOL, or weren't as good. - Thursday night at Tia Juana's. Their staff was overwhelmed, you would think that year after year they would know, but I guess we weren't there last year. Anyway, we had to end up eating inside and didn't get to celebrate Tabitha's birthday (even though I helped out with the cake cash and signed the card)...let's not even go there for what happened with Aiden around 11ish. ![]() -Friday night, the UFO museum took down the Texas Tech exhibit that had the models and display of an Architecture Studio that had done a project on the new museum options...would have loved to see that. But really can't fault them with that...they were good hosts. -Friday night, no one wanted to go with me at 12:45 to wash my car...was kinda creepy washing the car by myself with cops speeding to gun shot scenes. -Saturday - The heat....my lord, did they have to have a black parking lot! (at least they had a tent and chairs and access to A/C...for those that weren't running around with their heads cut off-LOL)...what happened to 30% chance of rain! -Parade? What Parade...that was a 60mph police escort! Next time I want someone on that pedestrian bridge shooting video! -That the weekend wasn't long enough! Improvements... -Photos projected of winner's cars, for those that aren't as hip as the old timers...so they know whose cars are winning the awards (TNBRU picked this idea up and it was always successful, but requires a lot of coordination between show and banquet...which means less time for organizers to "Chill") -Awards and fun awards...would be nice to have a participant judged set of awards (another TNBRU idea that we got after being at Roswell for many years) - we can have some judged awards for big items...overall, but the fun awards...or even something like Best Display and Best Paint should be something the participants could vote on. (Again, counting ballots is something that takes time...but if set up properly a couple people could go through 50ish ballots rather quickly with the right software/spreadsheet....anyone want to volunteer?) -Show time 5-4 hours...yeah, that seems like a common comment...I think the final hour we all were done, I knew it would take me an hour to pack up my car. LOL I'm sure I will think of more later. But that is a start ![]() |
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sure wish we could have been there! Maybe we will be there in two years! We wll see! Would be nice to have lovemachine done by then!
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Marvin and all involed in planning,,,
Kerri and I would love to help out anyway we can to make sure 2011 kicks it in style.. Just let us know what needs to be done and we will take it from there.. We would love to be part of such a great event in all the ways possible.. thanks Marc Ringo_Rico Kerri New Beelge_Portakali
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Heh. as I'm typing the rest of this on all of this, I realized it sounds pretty negative when put all in one place, so I would like to preface this post by saying i had an absolute blast and thank everyone for all the work they did to make the event happen! It was AWESOME!
As far as the posts made so far, there already seems to be a decent consensus forming on the good and less-good things, so I suppose maybe this is just me making suggestions based on those, to help the next one to be even awesomer. I don't know if all of the stuff done this time was done in the past, or not.. so, as a first timer, here's my thoughts. Quote:
and, er... if the "vamping" dragged it out... well.. I think that we probably could've killed time waiting for the photographer to arrive without having to do the dragging out just chilling out with the people.. Quote:
when else it could be, i'm not sure..was a decent meet-and-greet place, so possibly would've worked on thursday night instead of tia juana's. tia's was a nice place, but yeah, it was crazy. it was hard to find seats for everyone or then move around at all... i think it was loud (or seemed so anyways) and definitely the staff was frazzled. for the people that have been to the show before and are saying hi to old friends, it might work, but for a first timer trying to meet people (and repeaters meeting the first timers i suppose).... not quite so much. ...... eh. maybe that was just me? With the number of people that were there, I don't thing this should really be the case, though. I think that if there aren't going to be hundreds of cars as it sounds like the early years had and the number of new attendees goes up, a brief sort of introduction thing might not be a bad idea. Contrary to how it may appear (hehe), I'm not always the most outgoing, as far as walking up to someone I don't already know in some sort of way and introducing myself goes.. If it weren't for said birthday cake (you were there in spirit, Antoine, and thanks again to everyone else!) I'd probably be refered to by most just as "that weird girl with the antennae." (well, ok... maybe i still was anyways. )I do like Cori's idea of the book thing (would also make a nice thing to have at home later) and probably name tags [for some portions of the weekend] too, but those are kind of missing a personal connection.. Introductions wouldn't have to be anything big that would take forever.. probably just something as brief as "Hi. I'm Tabitha. I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina. I drive Stella.. she's a Batik Blue bug with purple paint graphics." not really anything more than what was on the windshield sheet we had at the show, really.. perhaps even less. Quote:
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and a strange question, but why were there bugs parked on the street instead of in the lot? I know that the UFO museum is working on trying to get new digs.. is there any sort of general timetable\outlook for that? it could be that most of these comments end up being moot points and\or totally different problems if the new place will be open by 6\2011. I remember seeing a sign on the lot for the new place, but don't recall what all was around it. just remember it being on the opposite side of the street and down the road.Quote:
Not really sure what to do about those issues while also keeping cost to a minimum. I have no idea if there was money paid to use the poolside space, but i imagine getting one of the banquet rooms would be much less reasonable\likely.? the on-site thing was really nice though.. being able to go back to hotel after the show, cool down after the sweltering heat of the day in the pool, and be back for banquet in a jiffy was perfect. I suppose we could just have a barbeque in the parking lot (or somewhere?). it was actually pretty nice outside by that time of the evening. (3-5 trucks!)Quote:
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yeah. the heat was baaad. thank goodness for girl scouts and coolers of melted Ice, I say. i suppose other than changing the date, it's just gotta be about the preparation. having some fans along with the tent would've been fantastic... (misting fans, brilliant! but less likely) being able to go inside a few times was great, but being able to keep cooler outside by the cars woulda been even better. (did Kerri\Marc wrustle that fan-bottle thing up in Roswell, or did you guys bring it with you? we got them for my niece\nephews in Disney last august, but I didn't have one of me own.... perhaps one of those should be a welcome gift. )Quote:
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I'll volunteer to do manual\technical labor things before the next one.. just as long as i don't have to call people to ask them things. ![]()
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I didn't go this year, but I know when I go to TDI GTG we all have name tags with our names and our handles on the site. That way we know who we're talking to. Get long file folder tags and that'll be perfect!
I also like the idea about filling out a form with your name, car, ect
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