2008 tintop beetles on available in 3 colors?

[callisto9]

i am on VWs site right now, building a beetle (just for fun, not buying one!) and i see the hard top only comes in three (boring) colors. is this true?

i see the 'vert is available in many colors.

what's going on?

i also don't see a diesel beetle on there anywhere...

am i just behind on some news here?

[callisto9]

ok, i see now what happened. i was looking at the non-2.5 engine.

der.

oops.

still don't see the diesel though.

[hestersu]

They will not announce the diesel until they have all of their approvals from the EPA, etc. It may be a mid year release.

[Concept1]

It's doubtful they will even offer a diesel for '08. It will not have foglights, homelink or leather either. I guess with an all new Beetle on the way for '09 they are going to put as little effort into the '08 model as possible. It looks like the Beetle we've known these past ten years is going out with a whimper rather than a bang.

[callisto9]

Originally Posted by Concept1

I guess with an all new Beetle on the way for '09 they are going to put as little effort into the '08 model as possible. It looks like the Beetle we've known these past ten years is going out with a whimper rather than a bang.

so sad.

[SMG]

That's a sad way to put it, but the bang at the end of a car's production run is it's successor.

[callisto9]

have i missed it somewhere? do we know what the 2009s will look like?

[SMG]

Originally Posted by callisto9

have i missed it somewhere? do we know what the 2009s will look like?

Nope.

I'm just saying that no model ever goes out with a bang. It's normally the brand new model that does the model justice. Why do anything crazy to an old car? I wouldn't even consider spending the amount of money they want for NB's now. It's a MK4, old technology.

[callisto9]

have i missed it somewhere? do we know what the 2009s will look like?

[callisto9]

Originally Posted by SMG

Nope.

I'm just saying that no model ever goes out with a bang. It's normally the brand new model that does the model justice. Why do anything crazy to an old car? I wouldn't even consider spending the amount of money they want for NB's now. It's a MK4, old technology.

hey, how did you quote me before i even posted?

i can't AFFORD what they want for a new, new beetle (22Kish). F that!

[SMG]

Me either and I think that's what I find the most upsetting. I like to buy cars VW Certified used with a warranty, but it will take years for cars that haven't even been released yet to start trickling in used. I have a feeling I'll be driving a GTI for a few years before coming back to the Beetle. I'll always keep my 2000 though, she's my baby.

[Smileybug]

I've heard rumors that they are only going to offer the new TDI in 3 vehicles. The Tourag and I can't remember what else. Rabbit is not included in that, or the Beetle. Not sure if its true but its what I've heard.

[larryziegler]

Originally Posted by hestersu

They will not announce the diesel until they have all of their approvals from the EPA, etc. It may be a mid year release.

I would assume that VW may be taking the same strategy as Honda. Honda already has developed its own diesel technology, cleaner than anything else out on the street and reportedly able to meet Calif emission requirements now. Word has it that they will introduce diesel powered vehicles nationwide in 2009 once they get CARB Certification from Calif. I'd lay some odds VW also wants to get its diesel certified by CARB for Calif before it brings it back as well....Calif is VW's largest sales center, which would also validate my reasoning to have their diesel available everywhere....evenmoreso due to Calif having one of the highest gasoline prices in the nation.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by Smileybug

I've heard rumors that they are only going to offer the new TDI in 3 vehicles. The Tourag and I can't remember what else. Rabbit is not included in that, or the Beetle. Not sure if its true but its what I've heard.

The Touareg, Tiguan and Jetta for starters though hopefully more will follow in the future.

[pdoel]

Originally Posted by callisto9

ok, i see now what happened. i was looking at the non-2.5 engine.

Their naming convention for the two models makes no sense.

You get a choice between two models. New Beetle (this is the base model, only available in Black, Harvest Moon Beige and Platinum Grey). And the 2.5L.

Um. Considering the ONLY engine available is the 2.5L, why would you use that as your differentiation of models? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by larryziegler

I would assume that VW may be taking the same strategy as Honda. Honda already has developed its own diesel technology, cleaner than anything else out on the street and reportedly able to meet Calif emission requirements now. Word has it that they will introduce diesel powered vehicles nationwide in 2009 once they get CARB Certification from Calif. I'd lay some odds VW also wants to get its diesel certified by CARB for Calif before it brings it back as well....Calif is VW's largest sales center, which would also validate my reasoning to have their diesel available everywhere....evenmoreso due to Calif having one of the highest gasoline prices in the nation.

The new diesels are 50-state certified and should begin appearing in 2008. The New Beetle will not be getting one however.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by callisto9

have i missed it somewhere? do we know what the 2009s will look like?

Just rumors until there is an official announcement...

First completely new Beetle in 10 years.
Rear wheel drive.
Small 3-cylinder engine in the back like the original Beetle.
No power steering.

... it is being designed as an entry-level economy car

[larryziegler]

Originally Posted by Concept1

The new diesels are 50-state certified and should begin appearing in 2008. The New Beetle will not be getting one however.

I haven't seen any news about any automaker having a diesel approved for the 2008 model year in Calif....doesn't mean it won't happen, but I have also yet to see anything on the CARB website for any passenger car diesels that have been certified for 2008 as well. If they apppear in 2008 as 2009 models that would answer my question. CARB doesn't show any 2009 model year certification approvals.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by larryziegler

I haven't seen any news about any automaker having a diesel approved for the 2008 model year in Calif....doesn't mean it won't happen, but I have also yet to see anything on the CARB website for any passenger car diesels that have been certified for 2008 as well. If they apppear in 2008 as 2009 models that would answer my question. CARB doesn't show any 2009 model year certification approvals.

2008 Volkswagen Jetta BLUETEC TDI
Target Date: May 2008

[callisto9]

now that i think about it, i couldn't afford any of VWs cars new. kinda sad. so much for the people's car.