NB Bronze Edition?

[kcfoxie]

Originally Posted by Pushing Fifty

Good points, but what is it that you don't trust about clean diesel? You have me curious.

The emissions sensors and the honeycomb has only a 120k mile warranty. That's 3 years of driving.

I've come to expect a far longer service life out of diesel vehicles and it seems no part on VW but the EPA is hell bent on making all cars throw away before 100k miles even comes around due to impossible to meet air quality requirements.

I also believe fully in domesticted, plant-based, fuel sources for combustion engines. New diesels can't use more than 5% biodiesel and function *at all* because the emissions shut the engine's power down when they detect a fallacy and B20 can cause the temp to drop enough to cause a CEL.

In other words... I won't buy one till I can rip that crap out and use software to tell the ODB Check that it exists when it does not. Diesels are inherently more efficient and cleaner engines from the start.

These are also enough reasons to make me finally resign as a US Citizen, because if we can't realize that we have had a strong answer for years and keep writing it out of the photo.. I want no part of the society.

I also got a BRM that is likely going to need a camshaft around 140-150k miles. Unacceptable by everyone's standards. Seems that reduced levels of additives in the US oils is to blame for this, because you DO NOT hear of these failures in Canada and Europe where these PD TDIs are way more common (have been out for more than a decade in far higher powers than the puny 100HP unit we got).

So in general it's a wait and see game. Most people are fine with a TDI but I do 30,000 to 40,000 miles per year, 300k is the minimum service life for a vehicle to me. Used to VW was the king for this, now they want more sales and that means shortening the lifespan of the hardware. This is made easier by the EPA and their senseless clean air mandates. We should be thankful we have a diesel option at all today. I say we shouldn't call it an option, it should be the default. The standard. And you pay out the nose for gasoline powered vehicles, mandate renewable fuels at a 20% level (totally totally doable with current feedstocks) and ramp up to higher percentages of domestic fuel using newer crop sources (I'm a HUGE fan of industrial hemp and medical marijuana -- but more industrial hemp, if you don't know the difference you need to self educate and Google the two).

"You should be lucky to have a job" ... "We are lucky to have any diesel at all."
"The job cut my pay and benefits and increased my hours by 20%" .... "You have to throw it away after 3 years of 120,000 miles because it's cheaper to get a new one than keep the older one running"

Pick yer poison.

Back off my soap box.....

[callisto9]

I've only owned 5-speeds and for the foreseeable future, I will only drive 5-speeds. You think it's hard finding 5-speeds, try being a WOMAN who wants a 5-speed. That'll get you some looks.

I've driven stick-shift my whole life and have no plants to ever get an automatic. Unless I lose my left foot, 5-speed all the way!

I just said '5-speeds' a lot.

[minttbird]

i just like the paint man...

[Pushing Fifty]

When I look to buy a car (VW only), I go for the best deal. Whether it has auto or manual makes no difference to me. Autos are much easier to find, however. And based on a couple of posts above this one, that new diesel doesn't sound like a good deal, so I'll stick with gas.

[Zuri]

Originally Posted by callisto9

I've only owned 5-speeds and for the foreseeable future, I will only drive 5-speeds. You think it's hard finding 5-speeds, try being a WOMAN who wants a 5-speed. That'll get you some looks.

I've driven stick-shift my whole life and have no plants to ever get an automatic. Unless I lose my left foot, 5-speed all the way!

I just said '5-speeds' a lot.

Agreed! When shopping for my current NB, I had such a hard time finding one in a color I like that was also a Manual. Heck, if I wanted an auto I could have had any color NB under the rainbow, practically...but for Manual...it was Silver, Black or white until I finally found a Yellow.

[callisto9]

I really do like the color. And I like the black roof, too. I just think for these final/limited editions, the New Beetle should have gone out with a bang, not a whimper...

[KBug]

I think I'm going to get a license plate that says GR8PMKN or just PUMPKIN

[Jillle]

Nice pic! That color is really growing on me. Enjoy your Gr8 Pumpkin!!

[minttbird]

drool

[callisto9]

OMG, you got one?!?!?!? Awesome!

[Pushing Fifty]

Originally Posted by Zuri

Agreed! When shopping for my current NB, I had such a hard time finding one in a color I like that was also a Manual. Heck, if I wanted an auto I could have had any color NB under the rainbow, practically...but for Manual...it was Silver, Black or white until I finally found a Yellow.

Silver seems to be by far the most common color of New Beetle, regardless of year or transmission. I don't know why.

[Chaz1138]

Wow ... here where I am, it is just the opposite. Auto transmission Bugs are rare in any color, but you get a stick at any time and just about any color.

Originally Posted by Zuri

Agreed! When shopping for my current NB, I had such a hard time finding one in a color I like that was also a Manual. Heck, if I wanted an auto I could have had any color NB under the rainbow, practically...but for Manual...it was Silver, Black or white until I finally found a Yellow.

[Chaz1138]

I stopped in at the local VW dealer and they had one of these in the showroom and I got to see it up close and personal. It was a gorgeous machine!

[elancee]

Red Rock ~ I like it!!

[Zuri]

Originally Posted by Chaz1138

Wow ... here where I am, it is just the opposite. Auto transmission Bugs are rare in any color, but you get a stick at any time and just about any color.

Maybe when someone is looking, you just find more of the opposite of what you want.


I agree, the red rock looks nice.

[Jillle]

There are two red rock editions at So Cal dealers and they are both listed as manuals. I haven't seen them in person though.

[KBug]

Just thought I'd add a pic with splash guards installed:

[callisto9]

Looks awesome! I love that color, SO MUCH! I only wish they had it in 5speed!

[Tommy]

Sooo cheap????

[Jillle]

The splash guards look good!
I like the wheels too.