VW - 2007 Updates

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by Atomic Glee

The V6 TDI Touareg is still under consideration. This info doesn't list every little thing, like the possibility of the V6 TDI Touareg, the SE Beetle or the SE GLI that's been discussed. That info doesn't get posted until nearer the time of launch.

SE Beetle?

[Growler]

special edition...

[Atomic Glee]

I believe that the Black-Cream refers to a black interior w/ cream headliner. I think.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by Growler

special edition...

Of course but are there any details as to what makes it special?

[Atomic Glee]

Originally Posted by Concept1

Of course but are there any details as to what makes it special?

What's been talked about is a Triple White convertible. There is also, apparently, a yellow SE GLI in the planning.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by Atomic Glee

No pricing just yet, but this is what's currently in store for 2007 with the VWoA lineup:

2007 Rabbit

Rabbit 2-door

Drivetrains:
2.5L inline-5, 150 horsepower, 5-speed manual
2.5L inline-5, 150 horsepower, 6-speed automatic

Meanwhile over in Europe they get the 1.4 TSI twincharger in both the 140 and 170 HP versions. I don't get it. They have an engine with both good acceleration and fuel economy yet they refuse to bring it over to the US.

[Atomic Glee]

Updates (will edit the original posts as well):

New Beetle Hardtop - Platinum Gray becomes Special Order Only.

New Beetle Convertible - Platinum Gray and Mellow Yellow become Special Order Only.

Jetta Sedan - North Sea Green becomes Special Order Only.

[NBTurboFreak]

Originally Posted by Atomic Glee

2007 Touareg

Drivetrains:
V10 TDI - 5.0L 310hp V10 diesel, 6-speed automatic, 4XMotion

Only TDI for the year approved. Beeble is correct about it being the EPA.
The EPA did not approve the new TDI systems for the rest of the lineup as they are not using the old common rail system anymore. VW moved away from the common rail system and went with a more efficent system. With the new system there will be no more fear of running out of diesel or air in the lines and having to get the pump retimmed, the system will be more like direct port. This also means less maintance and it will be even more efficent than the current models, which most hybrids and other desiels already have a hard time keeping up.

IMO...it is the EPA banning a more efficent car that would hurt US cars (GM, Ford, ect..) as they are not able to keep up and would rather pump out guzzlers and force the public spend more at the pump and keep money in big oil company's pockets.

[Concept1]

There are no new TDI systems to be rejected by the EPA. Quite the opposite. It is the current TDI that cannot pass the new EPA requirements. In fact VW is dumping the current TDI in favor of a common rail based TDI design for 2008. Not the other way around.

"Volkswagen is to abandon its Pumpe Düse single-injector technology and join the common-rail club, but the company insists that its single-injector technology will stay in use until 2012. The first Volkswagen engine to switch from unit injection to common-rail will be the five-cylinder 2.5-litre unit fitted to the European Crafter van. The first common-rail vehicle for the US market will be the new Jetta in 2008."

"When common-rail introduced, the PD will be dropped, but VW will continue with its registered trademark TDI. Buckett Commented: “The letters in trademarks may not always convey a literal meaning. In the Volkswagen application they could be interpreted as ‘Turbo Diesel Injection’.” The company has also introduced TSI in Europe to describe its Turbocharged Supercharged Injection gas engines."

LINK

[Moviequill]

According to Edmunds the triple white comes out in spring 07 "Volkswagen said a special model of the New Beetle is also planned for 2007. It will be a white-on-white model that will go on sale in spring 2007. It will feature a white interior and exterior and a white trunk lid, although the top will be black. No pricing has been set yet."
Link to article here http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=115930

[dunno513]

Lets face it, VW is only dropping the PD because they can produce the CR technology cheaper, and at an expense to the consumer. i.e. more profit, and the consumer gets a less efficient vehicle.

I will bet any amount that the PD side to side with the CR in 2008 with ULSD in the tank, the PD will win emissions, economy, and noise level hands down. Sure power may be better, as it was from the ALH to the BEW. The only benifit with be the investment under the hood, that VW saw $$$$$ from.

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Here is the link

http://dieselforecast.com/ArticleDet...?articleID=282

[Billsbug]

I also saw somewhere that the new '06 tail lights are already getting a design update for '07.

[Concept1]

Originally Posted by dunno513

I will bet any amount that the PD side to side with the CR in 2008 with ULSD in the tank, the PD will win emissions, economy, and noise level hands down.

A PD with ULSD in the tank will not even pass emissions in 2008. From what I've read about the CR design VW intends to use it is a step up.

[Billsbug]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

So they're obviously referring to a convertible... but what other color would the trunk lid be on a car that is painted white?

Might be a 2-tone hardtop!

[Mortville]

Originally Posted by Billsbug

I also saw somewhere that the new '06 tail lights are already getting a design update for '07.

That's the best news I've heard so far! I HATE the '06 tail lights! (no offense to those of you that have them! )

[dunno513]

Originally Posted by Concept1

A PD with ULSD in the tank will not even pass emissions in 2008. From what I've read about the CR design VW intends to use it is a step up.

It has nothing to do with the engine. It has to do with the abiliy to use exhaust treatment systems to further reduce particulate matter using ULSD. CR technology just happens to coincide with the change. They are not dependent on each other.

A quote from the article "In December 2005, however, it announced the move to common rail and gives cost and advances in common rail injector technology as the main reasons."

Broken down to saves money, and CR is now on par with PD..

As for a step up.. How come the Toureg and Phaeton are keeping the PD design..?. Hmmmm quick someone call VW and tell them that their top 2 models are "substandard"

[dunno513]

Originally Posted by Mortville

That's the best news I've heard so far! I HATE the '06 tail lights! (no offense to those of you that have them! )

Aww.. I like em.. Wonder how much different the 07's will be. probably just a minor tweak. I can't see VW dropping a cosmetic retro look after just one year.

I wish they would redesign those marker lights. The rounded ones look so much better than the rectangular 06's

Maybe just trim the edges and keep the thin profile.

[pdoel]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

So they're obviously referring to a convertible... but what other color would the trunk lid be on a car that is painted white?

I would assume it means the roof cover (when the roof is down) is white. But the roof itself, is black.

[Billsbug]

Originally Posted by dunno513

Aww.. I like em.. Wonder how much different the 07's will be. probably just a minor tweak. I can't see VW dropping a cosmetic retro look after just one year.

I wish they would redesign those marker lights. The rounded ones look so much better than the rectangular 06's

Maybe just trim the edges and keep the thin profile.

I kinda like 'em too, but have u noticed how dark they are at night?