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Old 01-20-2008, 05:42 AM
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ok i dont know where to put this however i need help. I needed to jump start my boyfriends f150 tonight and it was sooooo cold. -1 outside and we said screw it trying to figure out where to put the jumper cables on the bug. according to him "its covered in plastic, i cant do it" now i dont know anything about cars but is it possible to jump start with a beetle since it has plastic over the engine... if so can someone explain... please
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p.s. i just got my bug friday so i wasnt thrilled about having to do it. i may just have to take the trailblazer!
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yeah the plastic on the battery just folds up, and you can see the terminals on the battery (its on the right side, towards the front.)
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NEVER and I mean never connect the cables positive terminal to positive and negative to negative. Always make sure that one of the grounds (negative) is attached to one of the cars along a metal part of the frame.
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I wouldn't reccomend using the bug to jump start, or jump starting the bug. Some people here have reported ECU problems after. I HAD to jump start mine once, and while it didn't seem to fry the ECU, it reset my trip meter, clock and radio. I hate messing with electrical crap on this car. You just never know
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My Battery is gone a month ago. I jumped start by jump starter, but never think to jump starting by another car battery.

Why should we connect ground to the metal part not to the negative terminal? You mean car to car?
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thanks so much... i knew the jump starting negative to positive thing but i didnt know where to do it. i had a cavalier before which is a lot different!

nice to know that that could cause problems with the bug... glad we couldnt get it figured out
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My Battery is gone a month ago. I jumped start by jump starter, but never think to jump starting by another car battery.

Why should we connect ground to the metal part not to the negative terminal? You mean car to car?
Only connect one to the negative of one of the cars, preferabaly the one with the good battery. If you were to
connect the neg terminals together, and there was a power
surge you could start a fire or cause an explosion.
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I wouldn't reccomend using the bug to jump start, or jump starting the bug. Some people here have reported ECU problems after. I HAD to jump start mine once, and while it didn't seem to fry the ECU, it reset my trip meter, clock and radio. I hate messing with electrical crap on this car. You just never know
Damage to the ECU (or any other electronic equipemnt in your car) can occur when the positive terminal of the donor vehicle and/or receiver vehicle is disconnected while one of the engines is running. The excess energy generated by the alternator is normally stored in the battery (charging), but when the positive is disconnected it can't go anywhere else than into the electronics. It wil raise the voltage to very high levels and can cause permanent damage.
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que???

two things:

1. pick up your battery. see the cable going from the negative terminal to the frame, just under the battery? using the frame of the car (which isnt really availible in the NB engine bay) is the same as using the negative terminal, plus some more resistance.

2. voltage doesnt "flow" places. in the absence of a positive and ground, there is no current. and even if removing the positive somehow kept the voltage coming, the voltage cannot be raised, only the amperage.

people blow up their cars by hooking up a second battery in reverse, and instead of adding amperage to start the car, they double the system voltage to 24v and destroy everything in the car.

if one car is idling, and you hook - to -, and + to +, there is nothing that will go wrong. if youre flooring the running car, yes the alternator is kicking out somewhere in the 13.8v region, but your car takes that all day everyday, and it will not damage anything.

also, the clock and radio being reset has nothing to do with jump starting, and everything to do with the fact that your battery died.
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i've used my bug to jump start plenty of times and i've never had a problem. and i've had to jump it a few times too. my brother uses his mk4 jetta (same thing underneath as a bug) to have seemingly jump start everything on earth. he's never had any electrical issues related to jump starting.

yes, there is potential to mess something up, if you do it wrong. dont be stupid, if you odnt know how to do it, don't do it.
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<< according to him "its covered in plastic, i cant do it" >>

Um, time for a new boyfriend?

The Bug's plastic battery cover is actually clever and well engineered, in my opinion.

Open the small covers on the top and there's a small power distribution bus there, with empty terminals that can be used to add circuits, if desired.

Open the main cover and there's the battery itself, with the main terminals easily accessible for jumper cable clips.

I've jumped other vehicles from my Bug, including my F-350 Powerstroke, no problems.


Note: Upon further reflection, my description of the battery case is for my '02 Bug, I'm not sure if its different for any other years.
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