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Old 10-21-2009, 04:29 PM
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Im wanting to change the fluid in the wifes manaul tranny in her 01 NB. I called the dealer and they said i need 4 liters @ 20.00 bucks a liter ( OUCH !!! ). They also said the fluid temp has to be monitored while putting it in to get the correct amount of fluid ??? I always thought u just fill till it starts running out of the fill plug hole and your done.


anyways, anyone have experience doing this, changing the manual tranny fluid ? Ive read i can use redline MTL like 80w90instead of paying stealer prices...
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Old 10-21-2009, 04:48 PM
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4 liters and temp monitoring refers to the change procedure for the automatic transmission.

Since yours is a manual, its just drop the old and refill with the new. Takes slightly less than 2 liters. Make sure the car is level when filling. And make sure you pull the fill plug before you pull the drain plug. It would suck to drain your fluid and then have trouble removing the fill plug. It has happened.

Redline MTL is fine, but I hear that the new G70 fluid ($17.50/liter) from VW shifts like butter and is better for cold climates (although Redline MTL does good with that too).
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just finished it, it took a little less than 2 liters as u said. I used the royal purple 75w/90 synthetic.

The fluid i drained out looked like a rusty brown color
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Careful with that RP, it meets GL-4 AND GL-5 specs where you should only have GL-4 fluid in your transmission.

See how the shifting feels over the next 2000 to 3000 miles - especially into 2nd. Your shifting should start easy, then get pretty sticky as the GL-5 additives plate on your synchros. If it doesn't smooth out after 3000 miles, dump the fluid before it starts to eat your synchronizers.

The chemistry required to meet GL-5 is for differentials and they don't have synchronizers. The GL-5 additives are heat activated and will collect on the synchros and other yellow metal parts.

I've seen lots of problems with this stuff in any synchronized transmission, Redline MTL or VW fluid would be a much better choice.
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Old 10-23-2009, 11:43 PM
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I was about to use Redline MT-90 as well, but at the last minute, switched it to Motul 300.

A lot of great reviews on Motul, so was very interested in trying. Very expensive too $18/liter vs MT-90's $12.99/qt.

Interesting note from DZLBUG's tech info above is that Motul 300 is used for both differentials and MT. I will monitor over the next 3K miles to make sure it doesn't get progressively sticky.
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Just a caution regarding using non-VW fluids in your transmissions. VW uses a tranny fluid that is made specifically for your type tranny. It has all the needed conditioners and the proper friction coefficient factor to allow your synchros to operate properly with out excess wear. The conditioners are there for VW's specific type seals and use of other fluids can cause these seals to degrade and harden over time. The after market fluid makers have to make their fluids to fit many different type trannies and they do not have the exact formula for a the specific material VW uses for their synchronizers. The synchos will try and compensate with this non-stock fluid but will end up wearing and eventually causing a hard shifting tranny. Eventually it will start grinding with faster shifts and then you will end up with a non-synchonized tranny. Double clutch anyone??? Why risk it for just a few dollars. As you can tell I like to keep it all original. JK
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After reading your post Turbomania I answered my question about what to do with a case of ATF+4 I have laying around the house. I was considering keeping for the potential use in the VW if I ever change the fluid. But now I guess I'll sell it. What kind of fluid should be put in a 2005 Newbeetle's transmission? My Haynes manual says "Volkswagon Transmission Fluid."
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Yes go get it from the dealer. I tried Royal Purple GL4 and MT-90. The RP was JUNK and it added new grinds in 2 gears. The MT-90 was alright but I found it made the tranny very stiff, especially on colder mornings. I switched back to OEM VW and my 5-speed has never felt so smooth. It shifts great in the cold and never grinds when hot! VW really did their homework and developed an excellent gear oil for their transmissions.. I don't know why people's first instinct is that aftermarket stuff will be better..
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Guys, new to the manual so forgive the stupid question. How often should the fluid be changed?
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Mine had 140,000kms (86k miles) when I changed mine.
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Guys, new to the manual so forgive the stupid question. How often should the fluid be changed?
I think VW says its good for life, but most change it around 100k or when doing the clutch.

Its an easy thing to change if your shifting feels a little stiff and your trying to trouble shoot the problem.
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I'm thinking that a tranny fluid change will be the next thing for Daisy - 81000 miles now. How much does this typically cost at an independent mechanic?
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Thanks DZLBUG and SMG for good answers!

I will use original VW fluid when Im gonna change that tranny oil

I think Im gonna do that quite soon even my car shifts properly (it has 135000 kms now).
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in the fall i had the manual transmission fluid changed.
i was going to do it myself but had some seriuosly inclimate weather so i took it to my garage.

we drained the old fluid and boy did it smell...and it was very dark...im assuming it had all of the 130k miles on it.

anyways. seafoam makes a transtune fluid that they suggest runnign thru transmission and powersteering systems when they changed he fluid.

i have become a firm beleiver in seafoam so i wonder if i should have used there trans-tune product when i switched fluids. i ended up using mobil 1 75w90 gear oil. at first the shifting action was much improved. but thru the cold winter and as the miles have added up i noticed that unless it was at warm operating temp, the car was much more difficult to go into 1st and second gears.

reading the above posts i think im just gonna go get some vw fluid. but do you think it would be wise to do a partial drain on the fluid....put some seafoam transtune in....and run it thru the gears....then do a complete drain before i put in the vw fluid?

thanks for your advice in advance
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We have transmission fluid service kits available for those looking to change out the fluid. I personally don't agree with the "lifetime fluid" that VW claims, I've changed out the fluid in all of my cars at 80k+ miles and noticed much better shifting in both auto and manual transmissions.

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alright, so today i went to the vw dealership in moon, pa. and the parts department told me that they dont carry the gear oil for my 99 nb. they dont have it in small containers, only carrying it in a larger container for the dealerships use. after reading the threads above and hating my newer mobil one 75-90 i was really wanting to just go back to the vw fluid, as the old fluid, which had 125k miles on it, shifted nicer then the mobil one, esp when cold, and with a hopeful move to alaska, i def want to get the best gear oil i can. i dont want to do the redline mt90 cause i believe its technically a fluid (like hydraulic fluid) then an oil, which from what i understand will have terrible performance in the cold weather. so, any suggestions. anyone ever try lucas oils 75-90? or does anyone know of a dealer that actually carrys the gear oil they suggest i use in the car?
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Tell them to order in the smaller bottles or order it online.
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