Transmission Woes and High Water

[D2Beetle]

Well today it poured down and we encountered some flash flooding on our way to my parents for Easter Dinner. Our NB did well enough; however there was a surprise.

When we tried to leave, it would not shift; I could not get it our of gear. I always put mine in gear when I park it. So I pumped the clutch 6-7 times and then I could get it out of gear.

I was then able to start the car; however it would not shift into any gear while the car was running and there is NO CEL Light. So I turned the car off and it would not shift into any gear either. So I pumped the clutch 6-7 times, again and I could shift gears; however I noticed that it never would shift into any gear with the motor running. Not running, it will shift gears if you pump the clutch; running never shift gears.

I did take the air box out and looked for leaks (there were none) and check the brake fluid level, which was normal.

So I have read a few high water tranny threads, but those all involved automatics and mine is a 5 speed; however I will be disconnecting all connectors and cleaning them.

Now aside from the Shift Carrier Linkage Lever on my '98, I have not performed any transmission work.

I replaced the Clutch Slave Cylinder and the Clutch Master Cylinder; which did not fix the problem ...

The O2J Transmission DIY is here ...

The APH-O2J Clutch DIY is here ...

The Transmission is an O2J-EBQ ...

[MyOtherRidesAVette]

Oh Buddy, I hope it's not major. Keep us posted.

This should be a warning to all about driving in high water. Just simply don't do it! The very least damage is going to be warping your brake rotors, and it can only get worse from there. I have a high profile 3/4 ton Suburban and don't do it with that either (the warped rotor issue). Find a way around or wait it out. Period.

MORAV

[D2Beetle]

Ok, the replacement Slave Cylinder should be in sometime this week and this week end I will put it in; the DIY Thread is here.

[D2Beetle]

OK the new slave cylinder is in but I still cannot shift gears We did have some issues bleeding it as it would not bleed only ooze, so I will be bleeding it again.

[miffmole]

Sorry about your transmission woes, D2Beetle. I hope you can figure this out soon; I'm sure you do, too.

How much high water are we talking about? I surely don't want this to happen to me or anyone else.

[D2Beetle]

Originally Posted by miffmole

Sorry about your transmission woes, D2Beetle. I hope you can figure this out soon; I'm sure you do, too.

How much high water are we talking about? I surely don't want this to happen to me or anyone else.

Actually at this point I do not think the high water had anything to do with it.

Well my second attempt to bleed the Slave Cylinder was identical to the first; so I have ordered a Master Cylinder and will be replacing it.

The Master Cylinder DIY Thread is here...

[D2Beetle]

Well I have replaced the Clutch Master and Slave Cylinders and I still cannot shift gears. So it looks like I will be doing a Clutch DIY. I am still not convinced that the slave cylinder bleed was done right and I did it three times. It just did not feel right, either time.

So if anyone has done their own clutch replacement I ask that you share your experience so I can get a better understanding of what "Challenges" I might encounter doing a Clutch DIY... or should I just put my safety helmet on and be done with it.

[D2Beetle]

Ok, just so I could say, "... been there, done that." I went searching for any and all sensors; I found two. I cleaned them and still I cannot shift gears.

The car does start and runs excellent, even with the MAF and air box disconnected, so I ran a VCDS Scan and this is what it says...

I have not bleed the brakes yet, but I have pumped them alot and the ABS light did go out, but came back on. So after I bleed the brakes that should solve the ABS errors.

Sunday,18,September,2011,09:59:53:21564
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.4
Data version: 20110418

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Chassis Type: 1C - VW New Beetle
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 22 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75

Mileage: 278460km/173027miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-AVC.lbl
Part No: 06A 906 032 C
Component: 1.8l 5VT NB HS G 3077
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 1E38119BB027

3 Faults Found:
17965 - Charge Pressure Control: Positive Deviation
P1557 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
18010 - Power Supply Terminal 30: Voltage too Low
P1602 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus: Missing Message from ABS Controller
P1649 - 35-10 - - - Intermittent
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1J0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 379 AF
Component: ASR 20 IE CAN 0001
Coding: 13204
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 75EA2E376551

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
16-00 - Signal Outside Specifications

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 A
Component: 06 AIRBAG VW5 0003
Coding: 12342
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 356AEE3725D1

3 Faults Found:
01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200)
32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199)
32-00 - Resistance too High

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1C0-920-xx0.lbl
Part No: 1C0 920 901 F
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V07
Coding: 07202
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 1F462C9FB72D

Part No: Ident
Component: Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0Y1225028
Ident.-Nr. Wegfahrs.:VWZ5Z0Y1225028

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN V072
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: F0E49F239A33

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1J0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1J0 959 799 AJ
Component: 5X Zentral-SG Komf. 0001
Coding: 00256
Shop #: WSC 00066
VCID: 8608D9FB88B7

Part No: 1J2959802C
Component: 5X Tõrsteuerger. FS0002r

Part No: 1J2959801D
Component: 5X Tõrsteuerger. BF0002B

2 Faults Found:
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4)
35-00 - -
00944 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Passenger Side (Z5)
35-00 - -

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Address 54: Rear Spoiler Labels: 1C0-959-733.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 733 B
Component: Heckspoiler 0002
VCID: 2A50CD4BFC6F

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1J0-035-18x-56.lbl
Part No: 1C0 035 180 E
Component: RADIO 3CP 0001
Coding: 00403
Shop #: WSC 07110
VCID: 1A301D8BAC0F

2 Faults Found:
00852 - Loudspeaker(s); Front
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00853 - Loudspeaker(s); Rear
36-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent

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Here are the two sensors; I am guessing that Sensor One is the Reverse Light Switch and Sensor Two is the Crank/Speed Sensor. Sensor One is located just under the left rear corner of the battery, just above the starter. Sensor Two is located above the Right Wheel Drive Axle, where it attaches to the transmission and under the gear shift cabling.

[Krash]

D2Beetle,

Sensor 1 is / should be the back up light switch

Sensor 2 is the VSS / Vehicle Speed Sensor = Speedometer

Let me know when you get it figured out...

Krash

[D2Beetle]

Originally Posted by Krash

D2Beetle,

Sensor 1 is / should be the back up light switch

Sensor 2 is the VSS / Vehicle Speed Sensor = Speedometer

Let me know when you get it figured out...

Krash

Thanks.

That might be a rather large, "IF"...

[D2Beetle]

Well I am going to take out the transmission to determine what the deal is... not what I wanted to do but at this point, but it is the only thing I have not done.

I will be taking this one in small steps as I do not yet have all the necessary tools, Special or otherwise. So I will work as far as I can with what tools I have then pause, order the needed tool(s) and begin again.

Here is the Engine Support Tool that I am using.

Here is the Transmission Jack that I am using.

[D2Beetle]

OK, the car is up on Jack Stands. Had to have enough clearance to work and get the transmission jack under it.

[D2Beetle]

Well I got everything taken apart; tried to take the tranny out by myself ... ... not gonna happen, so I called my brother and father and tomorrow we take the tranny out of the car.

[D2Beetle]

OK, the transmission is out and the O2J Transmission DIY is here ...

OK, the APH-O2J Clutch DIY is here ...

I have not found anything that would prevent it from shifting; I have hand turned the transmission drive shaft and it turns oh so easy and makes no noises. Although I did accidentally knock off the top of the Speed Sensor; I snapped it back together and we will see if it still works.

So now I have to order a clutch kit and three more special tools to get the clutch and pressure plate off. This is where I feel the problem is.

I will also be changing the gear oil and choose Redline MT-90; it is a GL-4 Spec 75w-90 fully synthetic gear oil.

VW claims that their gear oil is "Lifetime"; I guess that depends on how you define "Lifetime". For me nothing last forever and I decided at this point that I will change the gear oil on every clutch change.

[D2Beetle]

OK, I have received the clutch kit (yellow rectangle) and two of the three special tools. Waiting on the Fly Wheel Lock Adapter Tool.

[D2Beetle]

The existing clutch ...

[VDubYah]

Appears to me the pressure plate is missing a couple of fingers.
Wonder where they went. Your DYI is off the chain as usual.

[Opelmania]

Good luck Frank. Hope the clutch kit works for you.

[D2Beetle]

Just got an e-mail from my VW/Audi tool rep; the flywheel lock adapter is back-ordered until January 17th. So I will be waiting a while longer.

[IndyTom]

Originally Posted by D2Beetle

Just got an e-mail from my VW/Audi tool rep; the flywheel lock adapter is back-ordered until January 17th. So I will be waiting a while longer.

Your DIY's and awesome pictures are well worth the wait!

Let me know if you need help with that clutch install. I would really like to watch and learn.
Maybe after we have done your clutch we can do mine